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[Discuss] Are passwords even long enough?
- Subject: [Discuss] Are passwords even long enough?
- From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
- Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 20:22:33 -0400
- In-reply-to: <43abc9bc-4b74-65cd-2d2b-5cdf3dc891d0@riseup.net>
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On 7/2/2016 10:30 PM, IngeGNUe wrote: > Given that this is the BLU ml, things like "spyware" don't apply to GNU > Linux. I don't know anyone more careful than me with regard to password You think not? I think you're wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware > management. My coworkers think I'm crazy when it comes to security. :) I > think about all those same things you mentioned. If you use a federated identity service like Google or Facebook then by definition you reuse passwords across many sites. > For example, I never reuse passwords and I never use anyone else's > computer for logging into things. Especially not on a Winblows computer. > I only trust Free software I get straight from distros, although Free > software can have vulnerabilities sometimes. Even then, though, > everything is carefully planned. For certain values of "carefully planned": http://www.howtogeek.com/126995/how-to-disable-the-amazon-search-ads-in-ubuntus-unity-dash/ > Still, there's always the chance that I could have slipped up at the > wrong time and place. In particular, I used to have an Android with > Gmail on it. So that was probably it. It was a Nexus too. (Dang!) Or any of a plethora of applications which use Google's identity provider. Games with on-line components practically require it. Also sipdroid if you link a Google Voice account to a PBXes account, but at least you can use an application password for sipdroid so you do not expose your actual password. > IMO, I think someday passwords are going to become obsolete. Yet again, I think you're wrong. I'll be the first to admit that passwords have always been a wrong way to manage user authentication. Problem is, nobody's invented and deployed anything better. 2FA and 2SV aren't replacements for passwords; they're supplementary passwords themselves. They're semi-randomly changing passwords but they're still passwords. We're stuck with passwords, in any of a number of forms, until someone figures out a way to perform user authentication in a way that doesn't rely on codes and phrases but does scale out indefinitely. -- Rich P.
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