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- Subject: [Discuss] EOMA68 Computer
- From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:01:48 -0400
- In-reply-to: <chxy44xzmb6.fsf@iceland.freeshell.org>
- References: <e9e40b25-c731-1a70-cd13-9714f43948fd@riseup.net> <chxy44xzmb6.fsf@iceland.freeshell.org>
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:20:45 +0000 Mike Small <smallm at sdf.org> wrote: > IngeGNUe <ingegnue at riseup.net> writes: > > > This computer right here: > > > > https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop > > > > Eco-friendly, upgradeable, portable, secure, affordable, no NDAs, no > > proprietary anything (except for MALI, if you insist on it), fully > > documented hardware. Can be used as phone (maybe phablet), tablet, > > laptop, desktop, "low-power co-located servers", anything you can > > fit it into. > > > > This is one of those projects which will change the way we do > > computing on GNU/Linux. Please read and if you like it, I hope you > > will support it!!! > > Hmmm, I wonder if it would turn out to be as eco-friendly as intended > in practice. The people who want to reduce their footprint I think > should keep whatever they have now running and not buy anything new. > Plus when you need a computer their tonnes of old crap to grab cheap > before it hits landfill. I could see something like this letting me > trick myself into buying before my current machines are fully > consumed or buying new when I should look to used. > > It would be nice if it influenced the industry to move to machines > where you can upgrade just the thing that's lacking maybe. Or would > it? I find my old laptops remain perfectly adequate and I haven't > looked into upgrade options: their upgradability certainly is not a > feature anyone has advertised to me. Having cheap upgrade options and > having those options publicized might also make me more tempted to > consume more not less. Of course, if it's really more fixable when > one component fails that's plainly good. > > My own experience with hardware was to be an upgrade junky in the > 90s. With some headaches you could get a new motherboard, change the > video card add SIMMs or DIMMs, upgrade the modem, etc. I'd end up > getting all this stuff I didn't really need cause you could do it > somewhat incrementally. Then I splurged and bought a powermac. Partly > I paid so damn much (at one time) for the foolish thing I didn't want > to buy new hardware for years. But also it lacked upgradability (or > that was my perception maybe combined with an irrational feeling that > it was a unit with a single identity less so than an aggregate of > parts) compared to the PC clones I'd previously dealt with. That > helped me kick the habit. And as mentioned above the limited > upgradability I have now with old laptops instead of desktops helps. > Odd, somehow this old crap just keeps running and running. Do > computers still break? ;) > > My cynical side fears this is a little like Macintosh or automobile > marketing, as in it's a computer whose first purpose, the purpose > sparking the sale, is to satisfy the soul who wants to express who he > or she is via purchases or in effect it working out that way despite > the good intentions of the founders. Hmmm, if that gets more people > to use GNU+Linux, okay, but maybe the way it works out in the market > would not end up being a net plus on the environmental or conflict > mineral side. I'm tempted to buy it for the same reason I bought a regenerative shortwave kit (and will later design and hand-assemble another): I understand what I've built myself, I can work on what I've built myself, and I can, to a degree, modify what I've built myself. I feel just a little bit helpless when using a machine or system which I can't open up and intelligently tinker with. SteveT Steve Litt July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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