[Discuss] Ubuntu Install Question

[iklimov87 at gmail.com (Ivan Klimov)]

Hi Mike,

Thank you for the clarification.

I thought of swap partition to be more for temp file storage/exchange.
Thank you for introducing the concept. When you said shuffle parts of
programs... I have not done it and do not envision how it is done. Maybe it
is an advanced concept for me;) I have installed FULL programs on different
partitions -never parted programs out.

Do you think it is a good idea to partition 50/50 SSD where windows 10 is
already installed ?.. and install Ubuntu on the second partition ? Is it
safe ?

Best,
Ivan



On Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 12:10 PM Mike Small <smallm at sdf.org> wrote:

> Ivan Klimov <iklimov87 at gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> > Excerpt from the post:
> > On this step we?ll create our custom partition layout for Ubuntu 18.04.
> On
> > this guide will recommend that you create two partitions, one for root
> and
> > the other for home accounts data and a partition for swap (use a swap
> > partition only if you have limited RAM resources or you use a fast SSD).
> >
> > My thought was
> > DISC C (SSD):
> > Partition 0:
> > Win10 : ~60 GB SSD
> > Partition 1:
> > UBuntu: ~ 200 GB SSD
> >
> > Disc D:
> > Partition 2:
> > 650 GB HD
> > Partition 3:
> > 350 GB HD
> >
> > home accounts data and a partition for swap (use a swap partition)
> > What is swap partition ?
> >
>
> A swap partition is disk space the operating system can use to
> temporarily shuffle parts of programs out of the way when memory gets
> low or when it can think of better ways of using memory than holding a
> part of a program that isn't used much. Sometimes the OS will even swap
> out whole programs when you're really pushing your memory usage.  The
> suggestion used to be to make it twice the size of your RAM, but I've
> seen advice more recently to cap it at some amount smaller than
> that. New machines have so much ram that if you ever activated that much
> swap, well the experience would not be pleasant, waiting for all that
> I/O.
>
> >
> > Any input is welcome.
>
> I'm not going to try to give much advice on how to lay out your
> partitions, since I always regret my choices later. One nice piece of
> advice I read on an openbsd mailing list once was to only create
> partitions holding the space you imagine right now that you'll need. The
> rest leave to create partitions with later, when you'll know what it
> should be used for. This advice maybe applies more to OpenBSD since it
> has no options like LVM, ZFS, or btrfs. On the other hand, maybe you
> don't feel like learning how to exercise those options right now, plus
> if you're splitting with Windows, something like LVM won't help you if
> you wanted that space instead for Windows.
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Ivan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 12:39 AM Ivan Klimov <iklimov87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Eric,
> >>
> >> Greatly appreciate it !
> >>
> >> I will refer to the guide once will have some time to go through the
> >> process.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Ivan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Eric Luther <luther84 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found this comprehensive and up to date walkthrough of the steps
> needed
> >>> which includes pictures.
> >>>
> >>> https://askubuntu.com/a/1031994
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:34 PM Ivan Klimov <iklimov87 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Eric and Greg,
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks for your reply.
> >>>>
> >>>> I went to Microcenter and grabbed $1000 machine with 6 cores (12
> threads)
> >>>> 16 Gb RAM SSD -- awesome specs for the money.
> >>>> If someone shops for a laptop, it is good time now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, I need to install Linux. The machine has 1 TB + 256 SSD (with
> >>>> Win10).
> >>>> Any recommendations on how to prepare for Ubuntu install ? How to
> divide
> >>>> HD/SSD, etc.?  I would like to make it dual-boot.
> >>>>
> >>>> FYI.
> >>>> I clarified with my colleague and compatibility problem was with the
> >>>> motherboard - not the chip itself. Let's hope that this machine will
> not
> >>>> have the same issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Ivan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:47 AM Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
> >>>> greg at freephile.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 9:58 PM Ivan Klimov <iklimov87 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Dear Linux Group,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Background:
> >>>> >> Friend of mine upgraded PC with new motherboard and RAM some time
> ago
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> could not install Ubuntu due to some conflicts with hardware.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I am just about to buy a laptop with the following spec. Do you see
> >>>> any
> >>>> >> problems/conflicts  installing Ubuntu on this machine as dual boot
> ?
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You could compare details of your hardware with the official
> >>>> "certified"
> >>>> > hardware for Ubuntu desktops listed at
> >>>> > https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Is
> >>>> >> there a way to check it beforehand ?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you can put a LIVE CD into the product, you can boot it without
> >>>> > installing Ubuntu.  However, I'll assume you don't have physical
> >>>> access to
> >>>> > the machine (ie. buying online).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > HTH. Some others on the list have more experience with
> installations,
> >>>> so
> >>>> > perhaps they'll offer advice too.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Greg Rundlett
> >>>> > https://eQuality-Tech.com <https://equality-tech.com/>
> >>>> > https://freephile.org
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Discuss mailing list
> >>>> Discuss at blu.org
> >>>> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >>>>
> >>>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at blu.org
> > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> >
>
> --
> Mike Small
> smallm at sdf.org
>