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- Subject: [Discuss] RMS in the news
- From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:22:36 -0400
- In-reply-to: <CAFv2jcYA6UZFUfJAeUoUmM7ZiXc4R6-PT=OhM9XJwok-YBsrOg@mail.gmail.com>
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NB: I'm on csail-related. On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 09:06:49 -0400 John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to see his original email that sparked the whole mess. From > what little I've seen, it sounds like RMS condemned Epstein but > defended Minsky, as Minsky is dead and thus cannot defend himself. The originals with names redacted have been published on The Verge website. One of my own is included in the "leak". In a nutshell, RMS supposed that Minsky did have sex with the Virginia Giuffre: "The reference reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein's harem. [...] Let's presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it)." He then tried to redfine the terms "rape" and "sexual assault" so that if this is true, that Minksy did have sex with Giuffre, then it could not have been rape or sexual assault because a) she presented as willing and b) she was not physically forced. The press had a field day with this. RMS' attempts at redefining these words to make Minsky not a rapist would, if successful, also have made Epstein not a rapist or less of one. So while RMS did not specifically defend Epstein and in fact condemned the man, his typical rhetoric indirectly did. -- Rich Pieri
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