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[Discuss] Accusations are not "facts". And they are disputed.
- Subject: [Discuss] Accusations are not "facts". And they are disputed.
- From: mbr at arlsoft.com (MBR)
- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 13:26:27 -0400
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On 9/23/19 2:46 PM, Seth Gordon wrote: > But these > debate does not seem apposite to the simple question of whether or not > Minsky (based on the facts that nobody seems to be disputing) committed > sexual assault at all. I take issue with your assertion that nobody seems to be disputing "the facts". At present, it's an unproven accusation. One person who claims to have been present at the time, does dispute it. Interesting that his statement hasn't gotten any media attention. On his Instapundit blog (at https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/339725/), Glenn Reynolds, Professor of Law at University of Tennessee College of Law reports that in response to the New York Times statement: "In a deposition unsealed this month, a woman testified that, as a teenager, she was told to have sex with Marvin Minsky, a pioneer in artificial intelligence, on Mr. Epstein?s island in the Virgin Islands." Astrophysicist Gregory Benford, Professor Emeritus at UC, Irvine, wrote: "Note, never says what happened. If Marvin had done it, she would say so. *I know; I was there. Minsky turned her down. Told me about it.* She saw us talking and didn?t approach me." [Emphasis added.} Mark Rosenthal
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