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- Subject: [Discuss] delete windows user data from dead laptop
- From: bill.n1vux at gmail.com (Bill Ricker)
- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:06:19 -0500
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On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 8:58?PM John Hall <johnhall2.0 at gmail.com> wrote: > I have a laptop that reboots even when trying to boot debian from a usb > drive or in windows recovery. ... > That sounds terrible, eww. I totally agree about the goodness of separate partitions for system and user. Fortunately it's just going back to best buy. > ... > If I totally wipe the ssd they may not be able to see the problem and may > blame me and delay replacement. > Well the first question is, Is this such a high-spec gamer/graphics/pro laptop that is worth getting full return credit for, vs your time & effort to make it safe to return, and the value of your exploitable PII in case you don't get enough of it, or is it a cheap one (which is the point of shopping Best Buy instead of MicroCenter right?) that if your time is worth anything, it's cheaper to set it aside as a parts donor and buy another one just like it (to be parts-donnee later) for short money ... and do a burn-in before putting any personal information on it!!! With some older versions of Windows, you could removed the Windows SSD and mount it (via a USB enclosure) on a different device that boots a Windows Rescue Boot-CD/Boot-USB, and delete users, directories, if the suffering laptop can't even boot the rescue media. (*I remember using the rescue boot to solve the problem that the prior owner of an older laptop deleted the only Administrator account when about to give it away, which meant no ability to add a new user. That was a long time ago tho*.) I suspect recent improvements in Windows security might make the Windows *User* addition/removal from a Linux-based rescue utility more difficult today? But deleting the user directory files should be possible, and should be mostly adequate. Alternatively, you might be able to boot another device with the SSD in an USB enclosure and then use Windows own tools to delete yourself, possibly completely? HOWEVER If they can notice you've removed and replaced the SSD for above, they might take same bad attitude about warranties. Hopefully it's not protected by a laquered screw. (If you do see a laquered screw, I wouldn't recommend find a matching nail-polish jar and nail-polish-remover to cover your tracks as I'd never recommend warranty fraud, but when the DIY isn't the cause of the problem but just limiting the damage hey seems fair.) Your precautions sound generally adequate. If they were to attempt to repair the laptop (partswap major components until it works - RAM, CPU, Motherboard, ...) or move the SSD into another device, they're likely going to re-image it before resale of a laptop as refurb. The worst case would be if they salvaged the SSD and sold it as scrap. Deleting user files and encrypted password file both largely continue to protect in that outcome. Only user data that Windows and Apps squirrel away in Registry and other insane places rather than under ${HOME} as Ken and Dennis intended would be inspectable. You might even be able to registry edit -- Bill Ricker bill.n1vux at gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux
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