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[Discuss] Stalwart E-mail; Was: Re: SSH options
- Subject: [Discuss] Stalwart E-mail; Was: Re: SSH options
- From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:34:06 -0500
- In-reply-to: <98c8671a-d093-457d-9304-23dcdd1522e6@borg.org>
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Kent Borg said on Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:13:57 -0800 >Yes, awhile back I ran across https://stalw.art, and I was very >excited by it. > >But as I looked more carefully I decided I didn't like it. > >It is an all-singing, all-dancing, full featured, integrated, do-all >solution! But I just want to swap something in for Dovecot. And maybe >swap it back out if it doesn't work for me. Replacing Dovecot is also my goal. >But?Stalwart is 100% take it or leave it, and once one is 100% in I >don't think there is going to be much motivated support for ever >getting out. Doesn't Stalwart offer a way to turn the other stuff off, so you can continue doing everything else just like you've always done? If the answer is "no", that's a horrible violation of modularity. If the answer is "yes", I'm *very* interested. My attitude toward Dovecot is "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I don't want to end up a fool somewhere down the road. >Lock-in doesn't just happen with commercial products. So few people realize this, much to our ecosystem's detriment. >-kb, the Kent whose current idea is Cyrus IMAP. Kent, I want to hear all about Cyrus IMAP, starting with this question: Can it store all its emails in Maildir format? SteveT Steve Litt http://444domains.com
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