DDD && xwpe (fwd)

[Massimo Morin]

Hi,
	talking about class browser:
does anyone know about a very handy program called ETAG? and the emacs
etag mode?
Well, this program takes your C/C++ source code (of an executable or
library) and creates a database containing the references of all your
variables/methods/classes.
Then emacs is able to read that database and it allows you (emacs e-tag
mode) to jump from file to file from a method to its declaration, from
usage of a variable to its declaration and so on.
The only missing thing (AFAIK) is a graphical browser for that (the neat
combo on the top left corner of the Code Warrior Editor...... well all
the rest even the e-diff (comparison between buffers e/o files) mode is
THE SAME in emacs)

If I may suggest other topics:
-  gprof: I don't usually use it even because I don't have an easy/handy
way to browse it (read it "a gui for it" or a handy mode for emacs)
-  Debugging Tools for Dynamic Storage Allocation and Memory Management
(I copied the title from
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/homes/zorn/public_html/MallocDebug.html): I
use purify BUT it is available only for Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX and NT
(When I talk to them about Linux and a Linux port they asked me what it
was !!!!!); AND it cost 2350$ and changes per workstation [BTW, X
people, you don't have any idea of how many X variable are accessed
without any initialization and how many "read after array boundaries"
are done inside XLib!!!!....]

Well, about programming and tools that help programmers to do it, we
could talk for days, but I really would like to see some of these topics
at least mentioned....
(and we haven't talked about graphic libraries (Motif, LessTiff, Qt,
gtk, tcl/tk), scripting languages (perl, pyton, tcl...) interface to
them (swig [VERY USEFULL]), IDE and VISUAL IDE (Visual TCL, WXWindows,
Glade, KDevelop.....), libraries (Standard Template Libraries,...)).

Well, I know I put too much meat on the fire but if I don't find gurus
at MIT ;)....

Cheers
			Massimo




Chuck Young wrote:
> 
> Glenn asked me to pass this on to the group as well...
> 
> I have already asked the only emacs fanatic I know if he would be
> interested.  I was thinking 40 minutes for DDD 40 minutes for xwpe and 40
> minutes on emacs (I know emacs could go all night, but then couldn't
> everything go on all night?  :-))
> 
> Chuck Young
> GTE Internetworking
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:16:24 -0400
> From: Glenn Burkhardt <glenn at aoi.ultranet.com>
> To: Chuck Young <cyoung at bbnplanet.com>
> Subject: Re: DDD && xwpe
> 
> > Massimo,
> >
> > I thought the quick and dirty 5 minute presentation was cool.  Would you
> > be willing to do a more extensive presentation?
> >
> > BLU members,
> >
> > Is there enough interest in GUI debugging to warrant a demo/talk?  Does
> > anyone have any experience in using xwpe?  I learned on Borland 3.1 and
> > loved it.  Maybe we could do a combined presentation?
> 
> Funny, I too, was thinking that a general talk on code development on Linux
> using native tools would be nice.  My only fear is that many folks know it all
> already.
> 
> Xemacs (or emacs if you don't like color or non-Courier fonts) should be added
> to the agenda, since it and "make" form the primary "IDE" under Linux.
> 
> I couldn't help but think "just like in Emacs", many times during the talk when
> a particular feature was shown.  As it stands, the product they had was not
> much more than a file manager.
> 
> The only other item that I'm not aware of that would be useful is a class
> browser, preferably integrated into Emacs.
> 
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