[BLU] trolling for comments on March presentation...

[Scott Stirling]

Some comments:

Terms and Definitions:

Java:  you might add that Java is currently beng used for primarily
server-side development, e.g., Enterprise JavaBeans, JavaServer Pages, Java
Servlets, J2EE, etc.  GUI Java development is still happening, but
server-side Java is by far the most important use now, especially on Linux.

JavaScript:  a.k.a, ECMAScript, was developed at Netscape, not Sun (though
with AOL they are all one now, sort of).  ECMA standardized it last year,
but JavaScript continues to extend the standard and is actively under
development as part of Netscape's Mozilla Organization.

Wrap Up:

Alternative Web technologies: should definitely include ColdFusion (now
ported to Linux) and JavaServer Pages (available in many incarnations for
Linux, including via Apache modules like JRun and JServ (w/GNUJSP)), and
Java Servlets (available, again as Apache extensions, or as stand-alone
servlet containers/application servers such as JRun, Resin, WebLogic, etc.)
.  Also, Tcl script pages, JPython pages, Java servlets enabling dynamic web
publishing from XML such as Cocoon, etc.  ASP has also been ported.  I think
it's called ChiliASP or something.  Not sure if that's available as an
Apache module or not.

General:  I agree SSL is a must-have for any site transmitting sensitive
info, but SSL is kind of a pain to set up unless you are doing it with RPMs.
I''ve done it with OpenSSL with Apache-SSL, and mod_ssl with Apache.  There
are a lot of things to consider (including editing the source for Apache if
compiling Apache from source if using Apache-SSL), getting/generating a
certificate and key, etc.  I think a separate talk on Web security,
including SSL and authentication with Apache would be more appropriate than
trying to cram it in with everything else you've got going here.  Note: now
that Netscape/Sun iPlanet is being ported to Linux, that should be mentioned
as an alternative to Apache.

Scott Stirling

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kramer" <david at kramer.ne.mediaone.net>
To: <discuss at Blu.Org>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [BLU] trolling for comments on March presentation...


> On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Christoph Doerbeck A242369 wrote:
>
> >
> > hey folks,
> >
> > I've posted the outline for March's BLU presentation at
> >
> > http://www.linuxsoup.com/__Presentations.
> >
> > The source text is written in LaTex and thus the DVI and HTML format
> > are available online.  There are still a lot of sections which are
> > incomplete but I figured I could get comments early....
> >
> > - Christoph
>
> I couldn't wait, and I wanted SSL also anyway, so I just built mine based
> on this resource I found:
> http://www.jasons.org/modssl.phtml
>
> It looks like you want to go about it from a very different angle (this
> page uses mostly source RPM's), but some of it might be relevant for your
> talk.
>
>
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