shady business practices
John Chambers
jc at trillian.mit.edu
Wed Apr 11 19:14:29 EDT 2001
Ron writes:
| On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 ccb at valinux.com wrote:
| > > > That's capitalism.
| > >
| > > That's disgusting.
...
| I also resent any implied association between this particullarly base
| concept of capitalism and American patriotism: the notion that if you
| don't exhalt the almighty dollar, you must be a communist. (I'm
| responding to a whole bunch of comments at once, nothing personal about
| this one...)
A few years ago, I read an interesting comment on this from a
historian. In describing the idea that the primary goal of a
corporation should be profit for its officers and shareholders, he
said that the first known expression of this idea in print was in the
mid-1800's, and the writer was none other than Karl Marx.
Marx intended this as a serious negative criticism, and it was
understood as such at the time. The idea then was that corporations
were permitted some of their freedoms, in particular limits to
liability for the actions of officers, in exchange for the social
good that corporations produced. Marx's claim was that most
corporations didn't work for the public good, but only for profit. He
argued that instances of public good from corporations were few and
accidental, and that they were more likely to do public harm in their
search for profit. This was a real contrast to the ideas put forward
by Adam Smith and other earlier economic analyists.
The point of this bit of history was the suggestion that, contrary to
widespread belief, Karl Marx has been far more successful than people
generally admit. In this case, his attack on corporations has been
turned around and adopted by the corporate world as not just the
truth, but is actually proposed as ethically desirable. So, while the
former Communist world has rejected his writings, the Capitalist
world has openly embraced at least some of his ideas that were wild
and outrageous when he wrote them.
Around the same time, an economist friend remarked that one of the
real embarrassments in his field is people they are more and more
trying to pass for scientists, which means that they are being judged
on how successful their theories are at making predictions, but by
far the best record in this regard so far has been from economists
who call themselves Marxists. I won't go into the explanation of why
these economists have the most predictive success.
(Ideaological trivia test question: Name some more Marxist ideas that
are now considered correct in the Capitalist world. No cheating now;
try answering without rereading your Marx. Stay on topic by giving
example in the computer industry. Turn in your answers by Friday. ;-)
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