Microsoft hits new ethical low point?
Derek Atkins
warlord at MIT.EDU
Sun Feb 18 14:08:35 EST 2001
You know, it's amazing how many people thought I was really serious
in my "devil's advocate" argument. But the problem is that M$ does
put forward these arguments (or at least similarly inane arguments ;)
and the public seems to lap it up. The real question is: how do you
fight a PR machine that get thirsty people to drink their sand?
-derek
Jeffry Smith <smith at missioncriticallinux.com> writes:
> Now that I'm able to send to the list:
>
> Derek Atkins said:
> > John Chambers <jc at trillian.mit.edu> writes:
> >
> > > In comparison, I have Unix software that I wrote 15 years ago that
> > > still compiles and runs without problems on any Unix-like system from
> > > any vendor.
> > >
> > > We really should be publicising things like this. If you seriously
> > > want a common platform, Microsoft flunks even the most basic tests,
> > > while Unix, with all its warts, does a fairly decent job of providing
> > > portability across years, hardware changes, and even major rewrites
> > > of the kernel.
> >
> > <Devil's Advocate>
> > But I have to recompile my software for every release of Linux,
> > Solaris, IRIX, OSF/DUnix, *BSD, etc. I don't have to recompile my
> > software for Windows. Once I've built it, it works. It will work on
> > all variants, and it will work on all systems. I can't even build a
> > single Linux application that will work on all versions of a single
> > release of Linux (it wont work across Linux/x86, Linux/sparc,
> > Linux/ppc, Linux/alpha, etc.)
> > </Devil's Advocate>
> >
>
> 1. I own a lot of software that worked under Windows 3.1, does not work under
> 95/NT. MS themselves admitted a lot of software that worked on NT/98 would
> not work under Windows 2000.
>
> 2. Concerning Linux versions (x86,sparc, ppc, alpha, etc). Of course,
> <sarcasm>Windows binaries work equally well on all Windows binaries running on
> those platforms, especially Windows 2000 - Windows works equally well on the
> x86, sparc, alpha, ppc, sh7, S/390, etc</sarcasm>. This argument is the worst
> I've seen - Windows runs only on the x86. I have yet to have any software
> that didn't run across all distros of x86 Linux (assuming same kernel version
> (2.2). Most work with all kernel versions).
>
> At least with Linux, you CAN recompile (assuming Open Source apps - another
> benefit of Open Source). With Windows you have no choice. That nifty Sparc 5
> - it's a boat-anchor for windows, but a great Linux machine.
>
> jeff
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Consultant Mission Critical Linux
> smith at missioncriticallinux.com phone:603.930.9739 fax:978.446.9470
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thought for today: clobber vt.
>
> To overwrite, usually unintentionally: "I
> walked off the end of the array and clobbered the stack." Compare
> mung, scribble, trash, and
>
>
>
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