Another distribution?? But why?
Brian J. Conway
bconway at alum.wpi.edu
Wed Nov 12 20:14:23 EST 2003
Not to throw some more fuel on the flames, it doesn't look like the first
release turned out as well as expected:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5111
Slashdot is full of the usual anecdote-as-evidence of people migrating
from the product to other distributions, but I think I've come to expect
that. Time will tell.
-b
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:36:25 -0500 (EST)
gboyce at badbelly.com wrote:
> I don't believe that the Fedora project itself isn't really usable for
> anyone who's looking to support a large number of machines without
> having to completely upgrade them every 4-6 months since that's the
> projected life cycle of the project.
>
> There has been talk about a fedora legacy project that will provide
> extended support beyond that length of time, but right now I'm not
> willing to bet my time and the companies money on an unproven project
> working out. If the fedora legacy stuff gets dropped, then we're in a
> bad situation.
>
> Maybe when Fedora Core 2 is released, and the extended support of Fedora
> Core 1 is a proven thing.
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, miah wrote:
>
> > and don't forget people, fedora is a OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY PROJECT, if
> > you want to work on a distro, work on that... building a distro is
> > alot of work.
> >
> > -miah
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:40:20PM -0500, Grant Young wrote:
> > > And now for the curmudgeonly view:
> > >
> > > Ugh... Another distribution???
> > >
> > > While I'm disappointed with Red Hat's decision to pull out of the
> > > low-end distribution market I'd have to say that the effort to make
> > > it work they put in was way out of whack with the return they saw.
> > > The main reason to use Red Hat was to have the brand name and
> > > possibility of paid support behind it.
> > >
> > > Trying to roll yet another distribution won't bring back the brand
> > > name support that gives comfort to the PHBs giving the go ahead for
> > > Linux. If they're willing to shell out just buy the Red Hat
> > > offering. The cost is still relatively insignificant to their
> > > bottom line. If they won't or can't afford it just pick some other
> > > existing distribution like Suse or Debian or Gentoo that fulfills
> > > your philosophical bent and technical needs. The maintainers of the
> > > those distros will appreciate the support. This is my personal
> > > view. One of the great things I love about Linux and Open Source is
> > > the freedom to do stuff like rolling your own distribution. It's
> > > just not my cup of tea.
> > >
> > > I haven't personally used the Linux-Athena distribution but I did
> > > have experience trying to use the earlier Athena versions with
> > > non-Athenized applications (like Oracle) and it was pretty much a
> > > disaster. Project Athena solves the workstation application and
> > > file server maintenance problem for MIT very, very well and their
> > > programmers do an amazing job keeping things up to date. The thing
> > > that makes Athena work well is its elegantly engineered rigidity.
> > > But in my experience the tweaks and improvements they put in for
> > > their environment usually mess up services and interfaces expected
> > > by many applications. YMMV.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:47, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > > > "Anand Rao" <andy at honnu.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > I am in for it. I feel this will is a great great Idea Ready
> > > > > to help this project.
> > > >
> > > > For what it's worth, you may want to look at what MIT is doing
> > > > with"Linux-Athena". It (currently) a Red Hat based distribution
> > > > with an automatic (push/pull) update system which allows
> > > > centralized control of lots of workstations with similar
> > > > configuration.
> > > >
> > > > -derek
> > >
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