Fwd: Updated Fedora Core test release: Severn

David Kramer david at thekramers.net
Fri Sep 26 08:01:57 EDT 2003 

This was a press release from Red Hat.

I'm getting very worried about this whole Fedora thing.  It almost sounds 
like Red Hat is divorcing themselfes from any non-enterprise products.  
they're sort of throwing the build of future releases to the wind.

As I've said, I need to upgrade my Red Hat 7.3 server soon, since there's so 
many things that I want that reqire later glibc/KDE/Gnome.  I was thinking 
of waiting till Red Hat 10 and going with that, but this whole Fedora thing 
makes me think they are not as serious about the low-end systems they used 
to champion anymore.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

See http://www.fedora.us/
See http://fedora.redhat.com/

And, yes, Jerry, this means I will be looking at Suse again.

PS- I was looking at the Mandrake site the other day, and it looks like they 
have joined Red Hat in *bastardizing* the look and feel of KDE and Gnome, 
shipping their own artwork that replaces the default theme.  With Red Hat 
8, I know there was no way to get it to look completely like a stock KDE 
system.  Can anyone speak to Mandrake's modifications?  Can they be undone?

Part of me wants to chuck the whole thing and go to freebsd, but that's such 
a big change I get nervous about finding something that isn't available for 
it that I want.  Maybe I'll load it on another machine to see what it looks 
like.

Why does it have to be so hard?

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------

Subject: Updated Fedora Core test release: Severn
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:39:18 -0400
From: Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com>
To: redhat-watch-list at redhat.com

And now, the Fedora Project presents....

  We're tired, we're droopy
    We're all a little loopy
  A Fedora Core Test Release
    Is invading your PC!

  New features - interesting!
    The code could use some testing
  That's why we are requesting
    new bug reports quickly!

  On our ftp site is the place where you will see
  The stuff that we've been working on since 1993!
  We're tired, we're droopy
    We're all a little loopy
  It's a Fedora Core Test Release
    Come and join the fun!

  (And now our song is done.)

Yes, it's an update of SEVERN, the Fedora Core test release.

As always, test releases are not intended for use on production
environments. Use of test releases in production environments could
lead to disastrous results, such as spontaneous musical theatre
from your engineers. Be afraid.

Problems with SEVERN should be reported via bugzilla, at:

   http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

Please report bugs against 'Fedora Core', release 'test2'.

Technical note: There are some issues with the SMP kernel; on
 SMP machines after installation, you may need to boot the
 uniprocessor kernel for stability. We'll have a fixed kernel
 in the next day or three; please update as soon as one
 is available.

For more information on just what the Fedora Project and
Fedora Core is, please see:

  http://fedora.redhat.com/

For discussion of SEVERN, send mail to:

  fedora-test-list-request at redhat.com

with

  subscribe

in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see:

  https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list/

As always, you can get SEVERN at redhat.com, specifically:

  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/severn/

Or the following mirrors:

 North America:
  United States:
    - ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/RedHat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - http://redhat.secsup.org/beta/severn/
    - ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/beta/severn/
    - ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/severn/

 Canada:
    - ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    -
 ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/linux/beta/severn
/

 South America:
  Chile:
    - ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/Linux/redhat-beta/severn/

 Europe:
  Czech Republic:
    -
 ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
 - rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ -
 ftp://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ -
 ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
  Estonia
    - ftp://redhat.linux.ee/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
  Germany:
    - ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    -
 ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ -
 http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
 - ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    -
 ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn
/ Netherlands:
    - ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/beta/severn/
    - ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/ftp.redhat.com/beta/severn/
  United Kingdom:
    - http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/
    - ftp://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/
    -
 rsync://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/ftp/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/

 Asia/Pacific:
  Australia:
    - http://planetmirror.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/
    - http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/linux/severn/
    - ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/linux/severn/

One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the
availability of SEVERN via BitTorrent.

  http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/severn2-binary-iso.torrent
  http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/severn2-source-iso.torrent

  RPMS for Red Hat Linux 7.3 through 9 of BitTorrent are available from:
  http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/btrpms/

  Usage is simple:
  btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent

  Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm.
  http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/


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