Are we looking for solutions, or just ranting? (was Re: Comcast and SORBS)
John Chambers
jc at trillian.mit.edu
Fri Nov 26 00:17:48 EST 2004
Robert L Krawitz writes:
| You're not a customer of AOL, so there's very little business reason
| for AOL to listen to you. If you have a problem with AOL's practice
| in this regard, you need to get AOL's customers to object to this
| practice, which I suspect will be difficult, since AOL sells itself as
| an easy to use service that emphasizes blocking spam and other
| nasties. They're not likely to care in the least that you have to
| route your mail through your service provider.
Funny story: Last Spring, when AOL started blocking all email from
rcn.com addresses, we had RCN service, and my wife Shelley was the
captain of a local tennis team. For some reason, half the team had
email through AOL. Suddenly all her messages to them bounced with a
nasty message that made it clear that AOL was intentionally blocking
rcn.com email. This was not email send directly from our home
machine; RCN blocked outgoing port 25, so we couldn't do that. She
was relaying the team messages through the RCN SMTP server, and still
AOL rejected the messages.
Eventually, I hear, AOL put RCN's server back on the good-guys list.
But for this tennis team, it was too late. They had discussed the
issue (and looked at the evidence that I provided them ;-). They all
decided to switch to other email suppliers. So AOL lost a bunch of
customers. As I understand it, this wasn't an isolated case.
Another funny thing was that AOL was heavily advertising that their
incoming email was something like 90% spam, which they were blocking.
Various people suggested that they could do even better. If they
would block 100% of incoming email, they would block 100% of incoming
spam. Somehow I suspect that AOL's management didn't see the humor in
this.
I also had isolated cases of email failing the same way, and in each
case, I was able to persuade the person to switch to a different
email service.
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