[Discuss] Future of X11 (was Trying to connect to internet in Debian)

[markw at mohawksoft.com]

> On 1/18/26 6:45 AM, Rich Pieri wrote:
>> It's not Debian. It's KDE and GNOME (and I hear XFCE as well) intending
>> to remove X11 support, very likely prompted by what IBM (dba Red Hat)
>> did last year.
>
> I'm not wedded to X11, but I do frequently use the ability to run a
> window over a network. I don't much care about GPU acceleration.
>
> My understanding is Wayland is the alternative that is taking over the
> world, and it seems to exist to make GPUs happier and explicitly is
> opposed to running over a network.
>
> Correct?

I read a paper last year and there were a few points about Wayland vs X11
and that seemed to address some inherent security flaws in X11.
Personally, I don't care. Use ssh -YAXC and you have secure remote
applications.

I dislike Wayland because it breaks one thing that has, at least for the
last 40 years, the ability to display over the network, i.e. "ssh -YAXC
myhost xeyes"

I am disgusted that RedHad is seen as the default leader. I would much
rather work on X11 for the future than Wayland. Linux has been wrenched
out of the hands of the community by RedHat and IBM. They brought systemd
and wayland on us.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -kb
>
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