[Discuss] systemd sucks and containers suck and language-specific package repos suck

[Steve Litt]

Jerry Feldman said on Wed, 9 Sep 2026 13:37:08 -0400

>I'm only commenting on systemd:
>While it is sometimes a real pain in the ass, it solves a really big
>issue with initd. Initd worked fine in the 1980s, but it did not handle
>dependencies well. Systemd was designed to handle dependencies among
>many other things. Like much software, it has become bloated. But it
>does its job.

I'm assuming that by "initd" you mean Sysv Init and not xinetd.

Runit, S6, Nitro and several other init systems handle dependencies very
well, and yes, they do parallel instantiation.

Making a choice by comparing it to something even worse and ignoring
all the better choices doesn't lead to an optimal outcome.

And almost every systemd "solution" solved a problem solved years or
decades before. A new cron, a new home directory, a new system of
mounting. Socket activation instead of xinetd. In every case, same
functionality, but double or more complexity. 

Which brings us back to an arcane shellscript that appears to hang on
the cd command.

SteveT

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