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    <p>I could do that on the 15th but I'll be at Arisia on the 20th
      still.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/19 1:41 PM, Kurt Keville
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      <div dir="ltr">Can you meet on a weekday? Just make a long day of
        it on Jan 15 ? Or Jan 20, which is a fed holiday?<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 12:47
          PM Jerry Feldman <<a href="mailto:gaf@gapps.blu.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">gaf@gapps.blu.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">I do agree that we should meet face to face.
            While I get free gas I don't mind driving across the world
            the North Attleboro. <br>
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            <div>--<br>
              Jerry Feldman <<a href="mailto:gaf@gapps.blu.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gaf@gapps.blu.org</a>><br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019,
              12:22 PM David Kramer <<a
                href="mailto:david@thekramers.net" target="_blank"
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                <p>Because I am IT Chairman of Agile New England and
                  handle all their IT, I've been researching password
                  managers that are designed for teams.  I think that's
                  a much better solution than yet another geographically
                  locked solution that will only be accessible by 1 or 2
                  people with physical keys. <br>
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                <p>Back to the start of the thread, we kinda dropped
                  organizing this meeting, which I think should happen. 
                  Even if we pick late January I think we should pick
                  that date in the next week or two so it actually
                  happens.<br>
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                <div>On 12/8/19 2:15 AM, Bill Horne wrote:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite"> On 12/7/2019 3:41 PM, Jerry
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                        style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">I was
                        talking to Kurt, Bill Ricker and David Kramer.
                        We have a few issues. Such as</div>
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                        style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">It
                        might be time where we should retire the
                        hardware and virtualized. I'll try to talk to
                        the guy at Synoptek. <br>
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                  I've been using <a href="http://prgmr.com"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">prgmr.com</a> for years, and
                  I recommend them. My yearly server rental is about
                  $120, but you'll probably want more bandwidth for a
                  BLU server.
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                        style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">Also,
                        we need backups for each of us as we are all
                        aging. One issue is if John goes away, we wont
                        have access to the domain. (Maybe <a
                          href="http://blu.org" rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">blu.org</a>
                        should be owned by a corporation). And
                        management of the server and web site. We
                        probably should use https. <br>
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                  <p>I think everyone in the leadership should write out
                    a list of applicable user id's and passwords, and
                    put them in a safe-deposit box or fire safe that two
                    or three people can access: if blu decides on a more
                    formal arrangement, lawyers will store them for a
                    nominal fee. As a practical matter, almost all
                    Domain Name services like GoDaddy can change a
                    domain's details with only a User ID and password,
                    so there's little need to incorporate just as a
                    placeholder for a domain name: incorporation is
                    expensive, and it requires yearly reports and tax
                    filings, so I'd avoid it if it were up to me. <br>
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                  <p>I don't feel that paying for SSL certificates is in
                    the BLU's best interest: all they do is close the
                    "lock" icon on the browsers that access the site. I
                    know that browser designers shill for the X.509
                    industry, by putting "insecure" warnings on
                    http-only sites, but I think there are still some
                    free SSL certs available if the BLU decides it's
                    essential.<br>
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                  <p>That's my 2¢. YMMV.</p>
                  <p>Bill Horne<br>
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