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<div>Let's do the jitsi test tomorrow evening. Who's available
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<div>Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:00 pm.</div>
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<div>I've added Federico to the conversation. <br>
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<div>I did some further testing, and found that desktop
sharing and windows sharing seem to work well on both
hangouts-meet meet and jitsi. <br>
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<div>I looked into recording the meetings, and I found
that jitsi does it out of the box for free, whereas
hangouts only provides it for Enterprise accounts, which
I assume would be prohibitively expensive for us. Jitsi
records the meetings to dropbox, and when I downloaded
and played my test recording afterwards, the video and
audio quality were excellent. <br>
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<div>I performed both tests from within google chrome, so
both are platform-agnostic. Members won't have to
install a dedicated client to attend. Unless they attend
by a handheld device, of course, but I saw that jitsi
has both iOS and Android client apps, and I assume
hangout-meet does as well. I tested the jitsi android
app, before I tried it in the browser, and it worked
well.<br>
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<div>If we find that all else is equal, I'm leaning toward
jitsi at this point, but I'd still like to run some
tests with other participants using both platforms,
initially with just a few of us and later with a larger
number of participants. </div>
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<div>Setting up our own jitsi server is an option I'd like
to investigate later, but for now we can stick with the
existing free server. The roll-your-own server is only
actively supported on Ubuntu, and apparently installing
it on CentOS is a major hassle, so if we decide to set
up our own, I'll want to build the new server with
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS instead of CentOS 8, and 20.04 won't be
released until next month. <br>
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<div>I also have a server at home that's meant for our
site. I had held off on building it until CentOS 8
was released, then forgot to get back to it, but
I'll add that to my todo list and start working on
it this week. <br>
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<div>I installed jitsi earlier today, just after
replying to Bill. It looks okay in the browser and
on my android phone, as far as I can tell without
other participants, although in firefox it
complained about the browser and recommended google
chrome instead. The jitsi client application appears
to be a text-based chat client; I've been unable to
find any video capabilities in it.</div>
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<div>I lust connected to Hangout Meet with google
chrome using my gapps login. Again, like jitsi, I
need some other participants in order to try it out
properly. <br>
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<div>The video meeting I have open now is at the
following link:</div>
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<div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">I
agree that G-Hangout-Meet and Jtsi are worth a
look. We have 2 issues:</div>
<div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">1.
April 15th. We just have to coordinate with
Federico. </div>
<div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">2.
Officers. (a more standard
collaboration platform, like G-Hangout-Meet</div>
<div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,255)">3.
I have a server sitting at home that I will
bring to the BLU hosting center at some time. </div>
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<div>If Zoom is unacceptable, then I
imagine skype, hangouts, and the other
options mentioned previously will
likely also have issues. It sounds
like you think it would be bad to even
test Zoom. <br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif">While
Skype and Hangout-Meet are owned by MS and
Alpha/GOOG, respectively somewhat and
highly suspect on privacy grounds, i am
not <u>aware</u> of any <u>specific</u>
privacy issues with them. <br>
(I haven't noticed targeted ads as a
result of keywords in Hangout... yet ...
as i do with G-mail, G-chat and FB DM and
post/reply. <br>
Creepy but better than all the ED cures
they used to offer when my only known
demographic was Male.<br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif">OTOH
you'd think they'd know i eventually
bought a mattress after comparison
shopping so maybe i don't need another
immediately and they can back off that
keyword?)<br>
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<div>I looked through those links, and a
couple of them recommend Jitsi as an
alternative. Apparently we could run
our own <a href="http://blu.org"
target="_blank"
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jitsi server on our hardware. <br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif">That
would seem to be the most FLOSS-dogfood
option based on the current buzz.<br>
I can't personally recommend as I haven't
tried Jitsi.<br>
Offhand IDK running our own might be
required - is there a free server and is
it over-subscribed in this crisis?</div>
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<div>Shall we test jjitsi instead, or do
you have some other platform in mind
that we should try? I'd really like to
try out something suitable this week
for holding an officers meeting with
at least 3 participants. <br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I'm
comfortable with G-Hangout-<b>Meet</b> and
that is compatible with our existing
YouTub archive, bonus.</div>
<div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Jitsi
probably worth a look.</div>
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