<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I didn't like the audio / video in FF so i switched to Chrome, it seemed better.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Bill, could you look into whether there are any security concerns with 8x8? If 8x8 look okay, I'd like to try it out with another video meeting sometime next week. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">8x8 sells their commercial (freemium premium) version of Jitsi on being more secure that other services in addition to more features than free jitsi (which is compatible with web standards, win).</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">Their <a href="https://www.8x8.com/terms-and-conditions/privacy-policy">privacy policy</a> is much less creepy than Zoom's. They list a lot of valid reasons to use data (incl "if we sell the co. the buyer gets everything") but i didn't see 3rd party snoopery. It seems ruled out.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;margin-left:40px" class="gmail_default"><ul><li><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">to any<span> </span></span><strong style="box-sizing:inherit;font-weight:700;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">other person with your consent</strong><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>to the disclosure<br>...<br></span></li></ul></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;margin-left:40px" class="gmail_default"><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:22.5px;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:15px;line-height:1.7;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><em style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(85,85,85)">Third parties who may receive Personal Data:</em></p><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:22.5px;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:15px;line-height:1.7;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">8x8 Inc. may disclose Personal Data to its affiliates, as well as to a limited number of third-party business partners, service providers, vendors, suppliers and other contractors (collectively, “Service Providers”) for the purpose of assisting us in providing, managing, deploying, enhancing, or improving our services. 8x8 Inc. maintains contracts with these 8x8 Inc. affiliates and Service Providers restricting their access, use and disclosure of Personal Data in compliance with our Privacy Shield obligations, and 8x8 Inc. may be liable if such parties fail to meet those obligations and we are responsible for the event giving rise to the damage. We also may share or disclose Personal Data to the extent that the customer or other data controller has obtained the relevant EU Individual’s consent.</p></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">(Of course if we (for some value of "we") hosted a Jitsi instance, that would have control over things.)<br></div></div><br></div>