<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Note that I was only addressing Shankar's long hours mask wearing experience. Certainly one of these beekeeper outfits would go a long ways to ameliorating that torture.. you might even be able to sleep in it! Not sure it is any healthier though....<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/27/nation/wearing-face-mask-with-valve-it-might-be-time-find-something-else-some-experts-say/" target="_blank">https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/27/nation/wearing-face-mask-with-valve-it-might-be-time-find-something-else-some-experts-say/</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 1:11 PM Kurt Keville <<a href="mailto:kurt.keville@gmail.com">kurt.keville@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Oh, I wasn't talking about those... I was talking about these... Ed Rohmer looked into them...<div><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-15/biovyzr-hazmat-suits-aim-to-make-flying-safer-during-coronavirus" target="_blank">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-15/biovyzr-hazmat-suits-aim-to-make-flying-safer-during-coronavirus</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I saw someone wearing one once... on a Spirit flight ... which is probably a good idea even in non-COVID times...</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 12:16 PM Bill Ricker <<a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com" target="_blank">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 8:09 PM David Kramer <<a href="mailto:david@thekramers.net" target="_blank">david@thekramers.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I just flew to DC and back for the World Science Fiction
      convention, and at least American was not allowing any masks with
      ports on them.<br>
    </p></div></blockquote></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Good!<br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Masks with Ports are for HAZMAT protection of the wearer.<br><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">The point of masks in <i>this </i>pandemic is bilateral: <br>protecting the wearer from others <br>and others from wearer, <br>who may be unwittingly shedding virus in pre-symptomatic phase<br>... or even wittingly walking around contagious because employer says "don't tell anyone and do your shift or your sacked".<br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br>Using those vented masks in a pandemic is saying "I don't care if I infect you, i only care about me."</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">(Vented masks <u>may</u> be acceptable in a clinical environment if e.g. they're testing people every 4 hours?)<br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">(Vented unilaterally filtered respirators can be used in Ebola epidemics' PPE because the doctors were obviously not contagious since they were capable of standing. But not COVID-19/SARS-COV-2, which has virus shedding <i>prior</i> to symptom onset.)<br></div><br></div>
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