[Vhfcn-l] Comment from today's pilots

[PAUL BIELECKI]

I think the cowboy was there in some units, as well as some individuals. I believe that some of us also considered the thought that the guys and ladies at times asking for help were our comrades in arms and needed our help. I know my crews always thought even if we got shot down we increased the count of American ground troops by at least four. Sometimes my crew had an additional crew member depending on mission and equipment on board. We always carried additional weapons, and ammo even when I flew for Dustoff. The AF and Navy did things different than us at times and seemed to have more operational restrictions than the Army, though I did see come Army aviation groups have more operational restrictions than others. I know I enjoyed a great many liberties that with the units I flew for and with many of the missions flown, always had great crew members and supporting aircrews regardless of services.

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Yeah, Vietnam was the cowboy time in Army Aviation.While I fully respect the aviators of the AF, Navy and USMC, none could collectively compare with magnificent (predominately) young men in their flying machines.Literally thousands of grunts and such are alive today due to the skills, audacity and balls of those crews.I have no doubt we lost crews and aircraft due to how they performed, but in the big picture we guys on the ground had full faith in those guys.We knew they would do what was necessary to support us as well as humanely possible - and maybe beyond that! Today all services are more like airlines, often more focused on checks in squares than operations. I saw it first hand when the Caribou was transferred from the Army to the AF. Overnight the SF and remote sites were never supported as well as before the turn over. Moe -----Original Message----- From: Don Armstrong via Vhfcn-l To: MoeElmore Cc: VHFCN1 Pilots and Crew Sent: Sat, Jan 12, 2019 12:38 pm Subject: [Vhfcn-l] Com
ment from today's pilotsOn another Facebook page someone had posted a link about Bruce Crandalland his actions that produced a CMH.Here is a comment that is very telling. Now a days he would have been. Grounded in the return of the first flight pending an 15-6, investigation, made RL3 because after being shot at and knowing he was hit ,he did not land ,he flew back to base......time have changed ,and I'm not sure for the better -- Don Armstrong cavman at dtroop35cav.org 604th Trans / 52nd CAB, Pleiku, Apr / July 68 D Troop 3/5 Cav, Bearcat /Dong Tam , July 68 May 69 http://www.dtroop35cav.org _______________________________________________ Vhfcn-l mailing list Vhfcn-l at vhfcn.org This message was delivered to MoeElmore at aol.com http://lists.vhfcn.org/mailman/listinfo/vhfcn-l _______________________________________________ Vhfcn-l mailing list Vhfcn-l at vhfcn.org This message was delivered to pbpilot27 at comcast.net http://lists.vhfcn.org/mailman/listinfo/vhfcn-l