[HH] Electric imp?

Thu Sep 17 08:50:36 EDT 2015

No experience with E Imp. But for Wifi module IOT, try esp8266
modules. They have gained a lot of momentum lately. I have like 10 of
them as they are $3 for a basic module, $10/$12 NodeMCU version.
Pretty powerful modules in terms of wifi connectivity with IO. But
limited in memory. I program it using a version Of NodeLua. But now
there is an arduino IDE option available. Quick note in brief but a
quick search of Esp8266 will get you all the possibilities. Love them
as they are cheaper and smaller than arduino with Wifi

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>   1. Re: Electric imp? (Kurt Keville)
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>   3. Re: Electric imp? (Greg London)
>   4. Re: Electric imp? (Drew Van Zandt)
>   5. Re: Electric imp? (Greg London)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:15:31 -0400
> From: Kurt Keville <kurt.keville at gmail.com>
> To: Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi at acm.org>
> Cc: "hardwarehacking at blu.org" <hardwarehacking at blu.org>
> Subject: Re: [HH] Electric imp?
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> I have messed around quite a bit with various SD WiFi cards like
> http://www.eyefi.com/ ... but haven't done any processing on them... Intel
> has the Edison which is similar to E-Imp (or so I hear)...
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi at acm.org>
> wrote:
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>> Any Arduino support?
>>
>> Best-F
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with the electric imp?
>>>
>>> https://electricimp.com/platform/
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend was telling me about it and it sounds pretty great.
>>> A microcontroller in an sd card package. Built in wifi.
>>> They take care of the data connection so you can focus
>>> On your application.
>>>
>>> And the base model is only $20 ???
>>>
>>> Is there a gotcha to this I dont see?
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
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> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:30:47 -0400
> From: Jon Evans <jon at craftyjon.com>
> To: Greg London <email at greglondon.com>
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> The "gotcha" is that they take care of your data connection.  Last I
> looked, there was no way to get it to work without their hosted services.
> It may be possible to hack it / reverse-engineer it, but that sounds like a
> waste of time.  I guess if you are OK with trusting them with handing the
> networking / cloud storage part, it's not actually a gotcha.  But I
> wouldn't use it, because I would want to be able to make it connect to a
> backend that I wrote, running in my house, not in their cloud.
>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with the electric imp?
>>
>> https://electricimp.com/platform/
>>
>>
>> A friend was telling me about it and it sounds pretty great.
>> A microcontroller in an sd card package. Built in wifi.
>> They take care of the data connection so you can focus
>> On your application.
>>
>> And the base model is only $20 ???
>>
>> Is there a gotcha to this I dont see?
>>
>>
>> Greg
>> --
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> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:31:47 -0500
> From: "Greg London" <email at greglondon.com>
> To: "Jon Evans" <jon at craftyjon.com>
> Cc: hardwarehacking <hardwarehacking at blu.org>
> Subject: Re: [HH] Electric imp?
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> Federico: the only Arduino "support" that I see is a help page for
> converting your arduino code to imp.
>
> Apparently imp is programmed in squirrel. I would have to learn squirrel
> to use imp.
>
> Jon: you have to use their cloud to get access to the device. As a
> hardware guy who doesnt know internet security, I dont know if that is a
> problem or not. If its just a local device, I could just physically
> connect with it and bypass the cloud (i think it has some i2c interfaces
> so i assume i could get the device to dump data through i2c. But if I want
> to monitor something from my smart phone, there is no way I could write
> secure code for that.
>
> Whether or not THEY write secure code is a valid question I dont have the
> answer to.
>
> Is there anything out there this small, this cheap, this low power, that
> would be a viable alternative for making an internet-of-things device?
>
> Greg
>
>
>> On Wed, September 16, 2015 12:30 pm, Jon Evans wrote:
>> The "gotcha" is that they take care of your data connection.  Last I
>> looked, there was no way to get it to work without their hosted services.
>> It may be possible to hack it / reverse-engineer it, but that sounds like
>> a waste of time.  I guess if you are OK with trusting them with handing
>> the networking / cloud storage part, it's not actually a gotcha.  But I
>> wouldn't use it, because I would want to be able to make it connect to a
>> backend that I wrote, running in my house, not in their cloud.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with the electric imp?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://electricimp.com/platform/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend was telling me about it and it sounds pretty great.
>>> A microcontroller in an sd card package. Built in wifi.
>>> They take care of the data connection so you can focus
>>> On your application.
>>>
>>>
>>> And the base model is only $20 ???
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a gotcha to this I dont see?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> --
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:44:28 -0400
> From: Drew Van Zandt <drew.vanzandt at gmail.com>
> To: Greg London <email at greglondon.com>
> Cc: hardwarehacking <hardwarehacking at blu.org>
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> Is there anything out there this small, this cheap, this low power, that
> would be a viable alternative for making an internet-of-things device?
>
>
> Roughly an infinite number of them, yes.  Features and price vary, but at
> the $20-ish price point I have seen offerings from half a dozen
> professional-grade vendors and enough startups that I'm starting to get
> twitchy when I see a new one.  Search Digikey for wifi module and read some
> datasheets, you'll find one that does FOO.
>
> *Drew Van ZandtArtisan's Asylum Board of DirectorsFirefly Arts Collective
> Board of Directors*
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>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com> wrote:
>>
>> Federico: the only Arduino "support" that I see is a help page for
>> converting your arduino code to imp.
>>
>> Apparently imp is programmed in squirrel. I would have to learn squirrel
>> to use imp.
>>
>> Jon: you have to use their cloud to get access to the device. As a
>> hardware guy who doesnt know internet security, I dont know if that is a
>> problem or not. If its just a local device, I could just physically
>> connect with it and bypass the cloud (i think it has some i2c interfaces
>> so i assume i could get the device to dump data through i2c. But if I want
>> to monitor something from my smart phone, there is no way I could write
>> secure code for that.
>>
>> Whether or not THEY write secure code is a valid question I dont have the
>> answer to.
>>
>> Is there anything out there this small, this cheap, this low power, that
>> would be a viable alternative for making an internet-of-things device?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, September 16, 2015 12:30 pm, Jon Evans wrote:
>>> The "gotcha" is that they take care of your data connection.  Last I
>>> looked, there was no way to get it to work without their hosted services.
>>> It may be possible to hack it / reverse-engineer it, but that sounds like
>>> a waste of time.  I guess if you are OK with trusting them with handing
>>> the networking / cloud storage part, it's not actually a gotcha.  But I
>>> wouldn't use it, because I would want to be able to make it connect to a
>>> backend that I wrote, running in my house, not in their cloud.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any experience with the electric imp?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://electricimp.com/platform/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A friend was telling me about it and it sounds pretty great.
>>>> A microcontroller in an sd card package. Built in wifi.
>>>> They take care of the data connection so you can focus
>>>> On your application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the base model is only $20 ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a gotcha to this I dont see?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:08:43 -0500
> From: "Greg London" <email at greglondon.com>
> To: "Greg London" <email at greglondon.com>
> Cc: hardwarehacking <hardwarehacking at blu.org>
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> Hm. Just found particle.io
> It says it uses the same hardware as imp
> But it uses the same software as arduino.
> It also has an option for sending data via cell phone?
> Somehow?
>
> So all your arduino code should just work.
>
>
>
>> On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:31 pm, Greg London wrote:
>> Federico: the only Arduino "support" that I see is a help page for
>> converting your arduino code to imp.
>>
>> Apparently imp is programmed in squirrel. I would have to learn squirrel
>> to use imp.
>>
>> Jon: you have to use their cloud to get access to the device. As a
>> hardware guy who doesnt know internet security, I dont know if that is a
>> problem or not. If its just a local device, I could just physically
>> connect with it and bypass the cloud (i think it has some i2c interfaces
>> so i assume i could get the device to dump data through i2c. But if I
>> want to monitor something from my smart phone, there is no way I could
>> write secure code for that.
>>
>> Whether or not THEY write secure code is a valid question I dont have the
>> answer to.
>>
>> Is there anything out there this small, this cheap, this low power, that
>> would be a viable alternative for making an internet-of-things device?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, September 16, 2015 12:30 pm, Jon Evans wrote:
>>>
>>> The "gotcha" is that they take care of your data connection.  Last I
>>> looked, there was no way to get it to work without their hosted
>>> services. It may be possible to hack it / reverse-engineer it, but that
>>> sounds like a waste of time.  I guess if you are OK with trusting them
>>> with handing the networking / cloud storage part, it's not actually a
>>> gotcha.  But I wouldn't use it, because I would want to be able to make
>>> it connect to a backend that I wrote, running in my house, not in their
>>> cloud.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any experience with the electric imp?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://electricimp.com/platform/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A friend was telling me about it and it sounds pretty great.
>>>> A microcontroller in an sd card package. Built in wifi.
>>>> They take care of the data connection so you can focus
>>>> On your application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the base model is only $20 ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a gotcha to this I dont see?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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