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Some good points brought up about poor quoting habits by users of "rtf" email. I'm left asking, though, whether such points are relevant to my main conclusion: that plain-text email is going to fade considerably in the coming years. As an example, I see a *lot* of html mail getting posted to one of my favorite techie lists (nanog), one where I would've expected peer pressure would have excluded such items. (You don't see those very often here on BLU, because such submitters get shouted down quickly.) The list software can't parse them, so you get all these =20, =3D, and html tags. My other point, besides the fact that a lot of recent arrivals to net email are using Outlook to generate html mail, is that the only standard interchange formats available are: rtf, doc, pdf, html. Html will win out because the others have a proprietary taint. Improvements to composition editors (and perhaps mailing-list parsers) could address some of the concerns about sloppy quotations. For example, a mailing list parser could make a simple comparison of a new submission with previous ones, and kick back anything with an "I've already seen that text" error if more than say 40% of a submission contains quoted text, or a "too many colors/fonts" error if a user gets too fancy. -rich
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