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Re: How long to setup a new system?

 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:03:13 -0800 
"Kristian Erik Hermansen" <[hidden email]> wrote: 

> So, then, it appears that Canonical actually supports a freer distro 
> that you think.  Ubuntu may make some compromises, but users do have 
> the choice to also use Gobuntu.  Do Fedora users have the choice not 
> to use binary-only firmware?  For instance, has the Fedora team 
> developed a "completely free" distro as Canonical has?  I don't think 
> you can continue to make your previous argument, because Ubuntu users 
> actually are given a choice, whereas on the other hand, Fedora users 
> are not :-) 

I think we have essentially 3 different philosophies. OpenSuSE, 
Fedora, and Ubuntu exhibit different philosophies. And the 3 sponsoring 
companies (Novell, Red Hat, and Canonical) reflect their philosophies 
in the products. 

Part of the problem with FOSS is that there are some companies who 
simply don't support it. Video chip vendors have been the worst 
offenders over the years. You want Flash for you browser, you get the 
closed source Flash from Adobe. The FOSS flash plugins just don't hack 
it yet. While some chip companies, such as Intel, do provide current 
Linux drivers for their video chips, most try to hide their APIs. 
Currently, the Linux market is not large enough to cause these 
companies to change. 

Jerry Feldman <[hidden email]> 
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