Re: Boy Scout Open Source - I'm done- OK

["sgoldman" <user=143@nabble.blu.org>]

 As a past PACK Leader and current Assistant Scout Leader- I have not heard 
any discriminatory messages preached to CUBS or SCOUTS- 

        What I have seen is children develop self esteem, leadership skills, 
service to community and many service to country in many ways. I am sorry my 
parents did not avail to opportunity to me. At the unit level I see that 
organization works. I have put the effort to make it work for my children 
and many others. 

        I don't agree all policies about the different organizations I 
belong. Morals are enforce by parents not by committees. ( My opinion) I am 
about inclusion.  My sons are 12 and 15. They think for themselves now. I 
personally don't like it when people continue to spam theirs views. But it's 
called free speech. Don't care for it - but accept it. 

    This is America. Many fine people have given the lives so we can have 
this discussion. 

I'm done now. 

Stephen Goldman 

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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:22 AM 
Subject: Re: Boy Scout Open Source - I'm done 


>> Regardless of what you think about the Boy Scouts' policy on gays, 
>> there's a big difference between, "We won't let you be a member of our 
>> club," and "If you're caught in this county after sundown, prepare to be 
>> lynched."  Let's not get carried away here. 
> 
> Adults act on what they learn as children. Teach a child to be a bigot, 
> and you'll have a bigoted adult. 
> 
> Listen, I hope we can stop this discussion as I'm sure many people are 
> sick of it. I think what I wrote was a little misunderstood. 
> 
> It isn't that I don't think the BSofA should use open source and free 
> software, but I, because of their position on gay rights, atheism, helping 
> the MPAA with a "copyright badge," and ripping off and subverting native 
> american culture to their agenda, do not think is a particularly good use 
> of my limited time to help them. 
> 
> Furthermore, it is these issues I wished to vocalize in order to alert 
> those similarly disposed so that they may make their decision based on the 
> facts and their own conscience. I have no desire to tell anyone what to 
> do, I only wished to present a picture of the organization you would be 
> helping. I did not want this to become a debate about prejudice or 
> bigotry. There are enough facts from which a person can decide without it 
> becoming a heated debate. 
> 
> Fact: The BSofA fought all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court for the right 
> to fire a person for the sole reason that he was gay. 
> http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/06/28/scotus.gay.boyscouts/
> 
> Fact: An atheist or agnostic can not be a troupe leader or scout. 
> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/West/10/31/atheist.scout.ap/
> 
> Fact: The BSofA collaborated with the MPAA to produce a "copyright merit 
> badge." 
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061020-8044.html
> 
> Do with that information what you will. 
> 
> I'm done, I am deeply sorry for the intrusion. 
> 
> 
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