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On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:09 PM, mark-OGhnF3Lt4opAfugRpC6u6w at public.gmane.org <mark-OGhnF3Lt4opAfugRpC6u6w at public.gmane.org> wrote: > Mostly Oracle and open source doesn't worry me. The specific case of Oracle > and MySQL does worry me, because it is a case of them acquiring an open > source project that has been gradually expanding into direct competition > with their flagship commercial product. I believed, and still believe, that > the world would have been better served by requiring Oracle to divest MySQL. > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Dan Ritter" <dsr-mzpnVDyJpH4k7aNtvndDlA at public.gmane.org> > Date: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 9:41 pm > Subject: The long reach of Oracle > To: "Rich Braun" <richb-RBmg6HWzfGThzJAekONQAQ at public.gmane.org> > Cc: <discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org> > > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 06:42:14PM -0400, Rich Braun wrote: > > Ned Harvey asked: > > > Are you discounting openvpn for some reason? pfSense? m0n0wall? > > > > Openvpn and these others address a much different requirement, that of > linking > > layer-3 connectivity. SSL Explorer/Adito (and the commercial platforms > from > > Juniper, Cisco and Barracuda) are not comparable; they operate at the > > application layer well above layer 3. > > > > > I'm not sure what you're afraid of. But if you think oracle is > unfriendly > > > to open source, think again. > > > > Maybe I shouldn't be "afraid" (you chose that word, it's not quite the > > sentiment I was driving toward in my initial posting). Would love to > hear > > from others who agree with either of us. > > Can I agree with both of you? > > It's good that commercial companies hire people to work on > open-source projects. It's bad when this is too concentrated. It > is probably, usually, self-correcting. > > I'm more suspicious of Microsoft joining open source projects > than I am of IBM. Oracle is somewhere in between. > > -dsr- > > The original founders of MySQL (and some others) have already forked MySQL, so if you're worried that MySQL will go away like OpenSSO then you shouldn't. BTW, OpenSSO (also a Sun/Oracle product) was killed, but it forked to OpenAM. I believe that most of the real opensource products that were Sun/MySQL have enough interest and the license permits them to fork. GlassFish is another example where I could see it forking. If you look at the latest version (3) they have removed core features from the OS version like clustering. I wouldn't doubt that some will come along and fork it. -matt
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