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I use fedora on my desktop and debian on my laptop...i have a second laptop and I use it for the flavor of the month distro..which is ubuntu... Io don't like my disttos too user friendly as it helps me learn better :) On Sep 13, 2010 1:14 AM, "Derek Martin" <invalid-yPs96gJSFQo51KKgMmcfiw at public.gmane.org> wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 08:25:39PM -0400, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > I am curious which distro everyone p... At work I use Ubuntu, but I'm not very happy about it. I prefer Fedora, or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that I prefer something that's not derived from Debian. This isn't really meant to be a "hate on Debian" rant -- Debian is mostly fine, but they often decide to be different from the entire rest of the Unix world, creating some odd corner of policy based on some dogma that has no basis in reality, that invariably screws me over royally every time I try to use it. My favorite example of this was when they made the 'which' command a bash script invoked as /bin/bash. This was particularly amusing, because I had what turned out to be a fairly deadly combination in my login files, which I've been toting around from job to job and Unix system to Unix system for about 16 years now: My .profile set $ENV to my .bashrc file, and my .bashrc file used the which command to determine where, if at all, certain binaries existed. The end result was equivalent to a fork bomb that took down the server I was logging into (because my .bashrc invoked 'which', which being a /bin/bash script sourced my $ENV file i.e. my .bashrc file... Yay. The latest example of this is that they insist that gzip data is not a MIME type, but instead it is an "encoding" (whatever that means -- the MIME standards have no such compatible concept). As a result they refuse to include MIME types for gzip (and several other compressed archive file types), which sometimes almost randomly causes programs to mishandle gzip files, sometimes attemtping to display them as text, sometimes unzipping them before letting me choose what to do with them... etc. This of course is easily fixable... unless of course you maintain thousands of machines (or even a handful) which for one reason or another get installed very frequently. Then it becomes somewhat of a headache. Lots of people love Ubuntu, and even I see that it does a lot of nice things... it just happens that debian-based idiosyncracies invariably clash with my own idiosyncracies, with a frequency and magnitude that has forged a lasting prejudice. > I've been a Fedora user for a while.. in fact, I tend to set up a > pretty minimal Fedora install... In my former life as a system administrator, I have always found that Red-Hat-based systems have a management philosophy that more closely resembles a commercial Unix, and they tend to muck with stuff less to suit their own ideas about what's Good and Right -- at least in my experience. For my money, that makes it better. Now, if we could just get those Gnome guys to stop trying to make Gnome be Windows... =8^) -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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