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On May 10, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Gillen wrote: > On 05/10/2011 11:17 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >> Another pro to consider: menus aren't duplicated needlessly >> across multiple instances of the same program. Part of this has >> to do with how processes are launch in, say, gnome, vs. in Mac >> OS X. Two gnome terminal windows == two different applications, >> each with its own menu[*]. Two Terminal terminal windows on OS X >> is two windows of the same application. One menu bar instead of >> two. Now add a bunch more terminal windows and consider which >> one makes better use of screen real estate. > > That would be more compelling if the major terminal programs > (gnome-terminal, konsole) hadn't taken a tip from Powershell and started > supporting tabbed instances. I only ever start one instance of > gnome-terminal, then ctrl-shift-t until have my workspace. Tabs don't solve the problem very well if you want to see more than one window for a given application. > Or just turn > off the menu bar (since I never use it on terminals anyway). Yeah, I typically have at least three terminal windows open, no menu bar, and several tabs in each of the terminal windows. No menu bar isn't a default though, and I'm not sure that even being able to turn off the menu bar is an option in many applications, at least, not without significant hackage. >> Regardless of desktop OS and menu location, keyboard shortcuts and >> contextual menus ftw. At least in my case, I rarely ever have to >> go to the menu bar on any OS. > > Whole-heartedly agree for terminal-like applications. Some apps (gimp?) > lend themselves to much heavier menu use. Maybe I'm just not very > proficient in gimp, but I imagine it (or any other full-featured > image-manipulation program) would be a PITA to use with MacOS-style menus... I have very little gimp experience to go on, but tons of Photoshop users (myself included, ~15 years ago) didn't really seem to have a problem with it for all those years when most of them ran on a Mac... But then a lot of the functionality is in (or duplicated in) menus in the various palette thingies, making the menu bar location mostly moot. -- Jarod Wilson jarod-ajLrJawYSntWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org
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