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run servers.  I would subscribe to them if I didn't live so far away =
from my CO.

Peter
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Chuck Young=20
  To: Abhishake Pathak ; discuss at blu.org=20
  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:31 AM
  Subject: RE: unblock port 80


  So, who is your ISP?

  If you have determined it is your ISP, check their latest acceptable =
use/end-user policy.  If "servers are prohibited" you will likely need =
to find another service provider.

  From what I've seen on this list, most consumer grade ISP's prohibit =
servers, but either look the other way or do a lousy job of enforcing =
the policy with ingress filtering.  I would not announce your intention =
to violate the terms of service to the ISP unless you want to be =
disconnected without refund/recourse.

  FWIW, most consumer services a) don't want you wasting their bandwidth =
(they are in the business of providing hungry consumers with commercial =
content) and b) restrict servers to "protect" their subscribers from =
hackers and the DOS, liability, etc. that comes from such activity.  =
Someday, the end user as well as the negligent ISP will be sued for =
these hacking related losses.

  Look for an ISP that encourages responsible use of servers (?)  Good =
luck.

  ---------------
  Chuck Young
  Security Consulting
  Genuity E-Services
  --------------------=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: discuss-admin at blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org]On Behalf =
Of Abhishake Pathak
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:11 AM
    To: discuss at blu.org
    Subject: unblock port 80


    is there anyway i would be able to unblock port 80 or somehow work =
around it (my ISP has it blocked) so that i can have my webserver =
working?





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From what I've heard, Speakeasy.net DSL =
is pretty=20
good about letting you run servers.&nbsp; I would subscribe to them if I =
didn't=20
live so far away from my CO.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dchy at genuity.com href=3D"mailto:chy at genuity.com">Chuck =
Young</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dabhishake00 at yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:abhishake00 at yahoo.com">Abhishake Pathak</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Ddiscuss at blu.org =
href=3D"mailto:discuss at blu.org">discuss at blu.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 11, 2002 =
10:31=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: unblock port =
80</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>So, who is your ISP?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D555301715-11032002></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002></SPAN>If you have =
determined it is your=20
  ISP, check their latest acceptable use/end-user policy.&nbsp; If =
"servers are=20
  prohibited" you will likely need to find another service=20
  provider.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>From=20
  what I've seen on this list, most consumer grade ISP's prohibit =
servers, but=20
  either look the other way or do a lousy job of enforcing the policy =
with=20
  ingress filtering.&nbsp; I would not announce your intention to =
violate the=20
  terms of service to the ISP unless you want to be disconnected without =

  refund/recourse.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>FWIW, most consumer services a) don't want you wasting their =
bandwidth=20
  (they are in the business of providing hungry consumers with =
commercial=20
  content) and b) restrict servers to "protect" their subscribers from =
hackers=20
  and the DOS, liability, etc. that comes from such activity.&nbsp; =
Someday, the=20
  end user as well as the negligent ISP will be sued for these hacking =
related=20
  losses.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Look=20
  for an ISP that encourages responsible use of servers (?)&nbsp; Good=20
  luck.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D555301715-11032002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>---------------<BR>Chuck Young<BR>Security=20
  Consulting<BR>Genuity E-Services<BR>--------------------</FONT> </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
discuss-admin at blu.org=20
    [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Abhishake=20
    Pathak<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 11, 2002 10:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =

    discuss at blu.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> unblock port =
80<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <P>is there anyway i would be able to unblock port 80 or somehow =
work around=20
    it (my ISP has it blocked) so that i can have my webserver =
working?</P>
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