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servers, but either look the other way or do a lousy job of enforcing the
policy with ingress filtering.  I would not announce your intention to
violate the terms of service to the ISP unless you want to be disconnected
without refund/recourse.

FWIW, most consumer services a) don't want you wasting their bandwidth (they
are in the business of providing hungry consumers with commercial content)
and b) restrict servers to "protect" their subscribers from hackers and the
DOS, liability, etc. that comes from such activity.  Someday, the end user
as well as the negligent ISP will be sued for these hacking related losses.

Look for an ISP that encourages responsible use of servers (?)  Good luck.

---------------
Chuck Young
Security Consulting
Genuity E-Services
--------------------
  -----Original Message-----
  From: discuss-admin at blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org]On Behalf Of
Abhishake Pathak
  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:11 AM
  To: discuss at blu.org
  Subject: unblock port 80


  is there anyway i would be able to unblock port 80 or somehow work around
it (my ISP has it blocked) so that i can have my webserver working?





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what I've seen on this list, most consumer grade ISP's prohibit servers, =
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either look the other way or do a lousy job of enforcing the policy with =
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restrict servers to "protect" their subscribers from hackers and the =
DOS,=20
liability, etc. that comes from such activity.&nbsp; Someday, the end =
user as=20
well as the negligent ISP will be sued for these hacking related=20
losses.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=3D2>Look=20
for an ISP that encourages responsible use of servers (?)&nbsp; Good=20
luck.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>---------------<BR>Chuck Young<BR>Security=20
Consulting<BR>Genuity E-Services<BR>--------------------</FONT> </DIV>
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  Pathak<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 11, 2002 10:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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