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Richard Pieri wrote: | On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:18 AM, Matthew Gillen wrote: | > Says who? People who are PEs? Look up the word engineer on dict.org. | > None of the definitions say *anything* about licensure. | | Says the Commonwealth of Massachusetts: | http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/ Well, I suspect that most dictionary makers would say that Massachusetts is defining "professional engineer", not "engineer" (or "professional" ;-). An ongoing semi-problem that dictionary makers have always had is that people routinely try to use them as authorities for what a word *should* mean. The actual function of a dictionary isn't to decide what words mean, but rather to tell the reader how a word *may* be used. So they routinely include most of the "wrong" uses of words, sometimes marking them as variant or slang or dialectal or obsolete or whatever. This is to provide a service for a person who may not speak the language too well, or has run across a word in a context where it doesn't make sense. So you pull out your dictionary, look it up, and expect to find an entry that in effect says "X can mean ..., or it can mean ..., or sometimes it even means ...". Purists might object to some of the uses, but dictionary makers aren't trying to provide reinforcement for the purists' views. They're trying to tell their readers how words may be used, so that users can make sense of a usage that they've run across. Larger dictionaries often give definitions for phrases. I wonder how many unabridged dictionaries define the phrase "professional engineer". That definition should include "licensed" (perhaps preceded by "usually" ;-). -- Give someone a program, frustrate them for a day. Teach someone to program, frustrate them for a lifetime. _' O <:#/> John Chambers + <jc at trillian.mit.edu> /#\ <jc1742 at gmail.com> | |
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