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[Discuss] DMARC issue, Yahoo and beyond

I'd like to thank JABR for working on this as I have been essentially
invisible due to work and buying a new home and registering with the
Veterans Administration.

On 06/05/2014 08:26 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> I've installed Python 2.7.7 on the BLU mailserver with the binary named
> "python277" instead of just "python", then I installed Mailman 2.1.18-1,
> which was just released a few days ago.
> I configured it to run in parallel with the existing Mailman, and created a
> test list within the new instance. After verifying that it's working
> properly, I let Jerry know so he can test the DMARC behavior with the new
> test list.
> Once we've verified the behaviors of the different config options and
> chosen which settings to use, we'll migrate all the lists to the new
> Mailman instance so we can shut down the ancient instance.
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:31 AM, John Abreau <jabr at> wrote:
>> I'm not sure what's slowing things down; it's been dragging out far longer
>> than I would have expected.
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) <
>> blu at> wrote:
>>>> From: jabr at [mailto:jabr at] On Behalf Of John
>>>> Abreau
>>>> There's no downside? I think you're assuming too much.
>>>> Jerry emailed me this morning to tell me that he can't upgrade Mailman
>>>> without first upgrading its dependencies, including python, and those
>>>> upgrades would likely break the OS, as it's gotten fairly old.
>>> Actually, thank you for this response.  Because it shows that there is
>>> intent to straighten it out, but due to technical limitations, it's
>>> difficult.
>>> Given the nature of people on this list, perhaps somebody has pointers
>>> that will make the upgrade process easier, or, as you said, new VM's are
>>> being provisioned and that will also make the problem easy once they're
>>> available.
>>> The question in my mind is:  What's the holdup to provision VM's?  I
>>> normally envision a 2 minute login session with digital ocean or whatever.
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