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- Subject: [Discuss] NAS: lots of bays vs. lots of boxes
- From: ozbek at gmx.com (F. O. Ozbek)
- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:08:45 -0400
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On 07/10/2015 01:27 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On 7/10/2015 1:13 PM, Kent Borg wrote: >> Certainly. But as with batteries, the technology changes, and there are >> qualitative consequences. For example, the Wikipedia article on RAID >> says that Dell recommends against RAID 5 with disks 1TB or larger on >> some Dell product-or-other, because the very act of rebuilding the array >> will possibly kill other old drives in your array before the data has >> been copied. RAID 6, as I understand it, is better by surviving two >> failures, but it only pushes the problem back and probably also becomes >> too risky with 2015-sized drives. > > Because if one disk reaches the end of its life and fails then the rest > of the disks in the set are soon to follow. The problem isn't RAID 5 or > Dell. It's poor maintenance. Perhaps a better comparison is engine oil > and filters, fan belts and hoses in a car. Consumables need to be > replaced /before/ they fail if you want the operation to continue smoothly. > That assumes drives only die out of old age, which is not true. Some batch of hard-drives will be bad, and may die at high rates during their 3/5 year life span. >> I can imagine someone putting together a swell RAID 5 package of the >> slickest 8TB disks available, with plenty of spares to be extra safe, > [snip] > > The "extra safe" means nothing without a good backup plan. RAID does not > protect data. It keeps the system running after single disk failures. > RAID 6 just gives you one extra single disk failure before the whole > thing crashes. > >> Declaring "they're consumables!" doesn't answer questions about how one >> would wisely fill up and use a 24-bay box. > > The same way you would a single drive: put data on it and perform > regular backups, and replace the drive when it approaches the end of its > usable life. >
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