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[Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED
- Subject: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED
- From: bogstad at pobox.com (Bill Bogstad)
- Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:33:49 -0400
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) <blu at nedharvey.com> wrote: >> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey.com at blu.org] On >> Behalf Of Shirley M?rquez D?lcey >> >> A router locked down in that way could not incorporate any GPLv3 code. > > I don't see any reason locked-down firmware would violate GPLv3. As long as you announce what code you're using, and distribute the code. Actually one of the changes in GPLv3 was to add requirements for installation instructions for certain classes of products. From section 6 of: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html === A ?User Product? is either (1) a ?consumer product?, which means any tangible personal property which is normally used for personal, family, or household purposes, or (2) anything designed or sold for incorporation into a dwelling. In determining whether a product is a consumer product, doubtful cases shall be resolved in favor of coverage. For a particular product received by a particular user, ?normally used? refers to a typical or common use of that class of product, regardless of the status of the particular user or of the way in which the particular user actually uses, or expects or is expected to use, the product. A product is a consumer product regardless of whether the product has substantial commercial, industrial or non-consumer uses, unless such uses represent the only significant mode of use of the product. ?Installation Information? for a User Product means any methods, procedures, authorization keys, or other information required to install and execute modified versions of a covered work in that User Product from a modified version of its Corresponding Source. The information must suffice to ensure that the continued functioning of the modified object code is in no case prevented or interfered with solely because modification has been made. If you convey an object code work under this section in, or with, or specifically for use in, a User Product, and the conveying occurs as part of a transaction in which the right of possession and use of the User Product is transferred to the recipient in perpetuity or for a fixed term (regardless of how the transaction is characterized), ***** the Corresponding Source conveyed under this section must be accompanied by the Installation Information. *** But this requirement does not apply if neither you nor any third party retains the ability to install modified object code on the User Product (for example, the work has been installed in ROM). === So basically under GPLv3 if a product is sold to consumers and the firmware is updatable then the end user has to be given all information required to updated the firmware. So WiFi router, cell phones, TVs, streaming media devices, etc. if they contain GPLv3 covered source code must provide installation instructions/keys. Of course, the Linux kernel is under GPLv2 which doesn't have this provision. Bill Bogstad
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