[Discuss] Ubuntu 17.10: As messed up as it appears in first impression?

[david at thekramers.net (David Kramer)]

For closure... I found an i3 laptop to try the install on. Not only did 
I get it installed flawlessly, and dual-booting with Windows 10, but 
everything seems to work fine, other than running applications as root, 
which is a known problem, and relatively easily fixed by telling it root 
can open windows.

I think with gnome-tweaks, I could adapt to its look and feel. I'll have 
to play with it more and install more software though. As Bill would 
agree, I would not fool around with this on a mission critical machine.

So far I'm happy-ish, but... Looking at the bug reports, they seem 
entirely unconcerned about everyone complaining that root-run 
applications don't just run. Like if you download a .deb, the browser 
will try to launch the installer and fail. That's pretty unacceptable.


On 10/21/2017 01:28 AM, David Kramer wrote:
> Disclaimer: I'm just booting it off a thumbdrive and played with it 
> for like 30 minutes.  Definitely not exhaustive, and running from 
> thumb drive some things aren't gonna work.  But I've been a long-time 
> Kubuntu user trying to see if I could adapt to the new 
> Gnome/Wayland-based version.
>
> First thing I noticed is that Software Center is... lacking. I 
> understand it's for less sophisticated users.  so I try to install 
> synaptic.  "sudo dpkg-query -l synaptic" shows it but with no version 
> number, no arch and uninstalled. "sudo apt-get install synaptic" says 
> the package has no installation candidate.  Same goes for 
> gnome-tweak-tool, which seems similarly essential. Separately, I know 
> if I do manage to install synaptic I will run into easily-solved 
> problems running it as root, according to the Internet.  Yes the 
> machine is connected to the Internet.
>
> I tried installing some other packages, and ran into the error 
> "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should 
> be..." when I run them from the command line. They don't do anything 
> when I click on the icon in the application list. Google isn't helping 
> me with that one either. The applications don't launch.
>
> Other opinions on it welcome, but specifically:
>
> 1) Is Ubuntu 17.10 ready for casual use?
>
> 2) Are others seeing the problems I'm seeing above? It's effectively 
> useless to me as is, and mysterious that there aren't a lot of hits on 
> these messages.
>
> 3) Is it likely these problems are being caused by running from a 
> thumb drive?  I have a feeling any spare machines I have to try it on 
> are 32 bit, and I would rather not blow away my main laptop install 
> only to find out I don't like the interface.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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