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- From: invalid at pizzashack.org (Derek Martin)
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 22:35:26 -0500
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 04:26:14AM -0400, David Kramer wrote: > My main motivations for running my own mail server is that I rely > heavily on procmail rules to deliver mail to the right folders, and > I am also not crazy about third parties scanning and storing all my > mail, though that's negotiable. I'm in pretty much this situation, but I've kind of given up on the idea that no one should be able to read my e-mail. The fact is your e-mail is already being consumed by the great government surveillance machine regardless, since both incoming and outgoing mail has to traverse multiple ISP backbones (excepting perhaps the case where all your recipients are on your own server), and only crazy people like me were ever willing to put up with the hastle of encrypting all their mail, so... it's a total loss, pretty much. So I use some random hosting service. They keep my system running, I do updates and such and configure my mail. I forgot which MTA I'm using, but configuring it was pretty trivial (sure, I used to be a sysadmin, but really--I think I needed to make almost no changes to their provided config, and maybe actually none at all). I do use procmail. I do not use IMAP--I log into my server remotely over SSH to read my mail with Mutt. I've found over the years that this was the simplest way to ensure I could actually get at my mail without being blocked by firewalls or other problems. Yes, that does have its limitations, but they largely don't impact me. Especially now that Windows 10 has the Windows Subsystem for Linux, enabling me to run Linux natively inside Windows, having easy access to nicer Linux-based SSH tools, terminal windows, etc.; I don't even need Virtualbox (or in byegone days Cygwin) for that anymore. Another crazy thing I do is maintain a completely separate e-mail address for literally every single business / website / etc. with which I interact. Yes, this does get tedious to maintain, but I'm kind of stuck with it now... without making a big effort to rework how I do everything related to e-mail. And to be honest, now that I'm getting older, I've started to think about what happens if I should die. Frankly, no one will be able to figure out my hosted server details, and even if they somehow did they'd never figure out my complicated e-mail management nonsense, and any messages I receive which might truly be important for a family member to handle will simply be lost, in all probability. I do also maintain and use a gmail address, and over time, I've been increasingly relying on that for convenience. I forward "important" messages to it in case I need to get them at a time when I'm not likely to have convenient ssh access, and in very rare cases I also give it to businesses, if I haven't done business with them before, and actually want them to be able to e-mail me (which FWIW is pretty rare). Because otherwise, to stick with my current scheme, I'd have to create an e-mail for them on the fly, and find a way to actually create it before they're going to use it. I've begun to think that maybe what I should really do is just get myself one, or at most two new gmail addresses--one personal address for friends and family, one for all businesses, and a last one for things where I'd really prefer to just stay anonymous--and dump everything else. It'd be a fair amount of work, but so is what I'm already doing... and once it was done, I wouldn't need to muck with it ever again. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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