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[Discuss] WSL 2
- Subject: [Discuss] WSL 2
- From: bogstad at pobox.com (Bill Bogstad)
- Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 22:15:20 -0400
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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:43 PM Bill Bogstad <bogstad at pobox.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 5:40 PM Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote: > >... > > WSL 2 will ship with a fully GPL compliant (including patches), > > reasonably current Linux kernel running in a lightweight virtual > > machine. Reasons cited are better performance, particularly filesystem > > performance, and native Docker capability. > > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/05/windows-10-will-soon-ship-with-a-full-open-source-gpled-linux-kernel/ This 60 minute video from Microsoft answers a number of my questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhMThePdIo The answers to my questions are inline below.. > Kind of short on details... Is this going to be some kind of highly > optimized Hyper-V type environment with a customized > Linux kernel? Yes. Using an optimized Hyper-V system developed for servers. > Is it going to still have full filesystem visibility > from both operating systems? How? Both Windows and Linux will support the Plan 9 file server protocol as both a server and as a client. This gives full filesystem visibility from both sides. For example, their init automounts /mnt/c via this mechanism. >Will I still be able to run > Window's binaries from a Linux command line? Yes, They use the Linux kernel's ability to provide user-mode interpreters (binfmt?) to start the windows binaries and connect IO between the two sides. This works for both command line and graphical windows' programs. You can safely edit files in either direction. >Will I be able to run > all standard system daemons without hacks? (i.e. > will init actually be systemd (or at least be replaceable with systemd > or at least some Linux native init)). They are still using their own init and nothing was said about doing anything else. They mentioned that the way they are running multiple simultaneous distributions is by using Linux's privileged container system with a single instance of the Linux kernel supporting all of them which probably requires the special init they provide. As they are privileged containers, they said that you could break out into other containers (underlying Linux system?). So starting a new Linux distro in WSL2 is like starting a distro via lxc in Ubuntu. They also said that they are using ext4 with a virtual HD for the root filesystem. There is even a way to move your distro back and forth between WSL1 and WSL2 and everything should work more or less the same (except for the stuff that WSL1 just can't do (some system calls, no FUSE filesystems, etc.)). Bill Bogstad
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