[Discuss] Debian Buster is the worst desktop OS

[gmongardi at napc.com (Grant Mongardi)]

> Tell us what you actually did, please
For the reboot I went to "Applications->System Tools->Software Install" and
selected the "Updates" tab, It showed only the Firefox update so I
installed it. It did say "Install and Restart" but I assumed it just meant
restart Firefox. I was wrong.

> Oh, you're using GNOME. Maybe you would be happier with XFCE.
GNOME is the default desktop when installing Debian. I believe in stretch
it was Cinnamon.

> What's a toolbox?
It's a sort of notifications panel that certain apps can minimize to so
that they aren't on the toolbar. Applications like Slack, Reminna RDP, and
others will minimize to an icon that in Cinnamon would show in the bottom
right of the toolbar next to the powerbutton and date panel.

> You're making lots of complaints about GNOME as though it were
> the operating system. It isn't.
It is the default desktop for Debian buster. It wasn't in Debian stretch.
So no, it's not the OS, but it is the distribution. So yes, I'm complaining
about Debian buster, the release, not specifically the OS.

Thanks,
Grant M.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Dan Ritter <dsr at randomstring.org> wrote:

> Grant Mongardi wrote:
> > Ok, so this is more of a rant than anything. After several years of using
> > Debian at work (Debian 9 stretch), and after my LTS version of Linux Mint
> > at home stopped receiving updates, I decided to upgrade it to Debian 10
> > buster. I have to say that this is the worst desktop linux OS I've ever
> > used. It's as though they went out of their way to make it difficult to
> > use, customize or manage. Here's what I've encountered so far:
> > 1. Software Update reboots the computer - seriously, it just rebooted my
> > computer to install a Firefox update! Who does that?
>
> That doesn't sound like Debian at all. Did you install
> unattended-upgrades for some reason and tell it to reboot
> automatically?
>
> Tell us what you actually did, please.
>
>
> > 2. Stupid, unmovable, pop-up "favorites" tool bar - this is a toolbar, on
> > the left side of the screen that pops up when you move your mouse there.
>
> Oh, you're using GNOME. Maybe you would be happier with XFCE.
>
> > 3. No toolbox that I can find - I've tried installing things in the repo
> > that would seem to be toolboxes, but to no avail. So now every time I
> need
> > to check Slack I have to open it from the main menu. I did figure out I
> > could add it to favorites and it would be on the stupid tool bar though,
> so
>
> What's a toolbox?
>
> > 4. Date, sound, power, and network icons moved to the top
> > 5. No quick-launch bar that I can find.
>
> You're making lots of complaints about GNOME as though it were
> the operating system. It isn't.
>
> > I've been using Debian stretch for years now without any of these issues.
> > So yeah, I'm pretty upset by this.
>
> I can tell. But all of these problems are fixable.
>
> -dsr-
>


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