Rich Braun was talking about TCP problems. Does anyone know if the servers involved (like POP3D) use the TCP Keepalive option? should they? could they? Rodney Thayer <rodney at sabletech.com> +1 617 332 7292 Sable Technology Corp, 246 Walnut St., Newton MA 02160 USA Fax: +1 617 332 7970 http://www.shore.net/~sable "Developers of communications software"