rhel 6 fustrations...

[Jerry Feldman]

On 12/02/2010 07:28 AM, Jim Gasek wrote:
> A couple things I found with RHEL6:
>
> Security is no longer an option at boot time, at
> least in some cases.   selinux for example.  This lack
> of choice is, in Microsoft parlance, a "feature".
>
> Startup mechanism is, slowly but surely departing from
> the /etc/.init.d/* (sequential and simple) mechanism into
> the "upstart" paradigm.   Most of the old ways to do things
> (chkconfig) are still there, for now.=20
>
> This is the root of most confusion, and frankly, problems
> for people like me who load "servers" all day. =20
>
> For now, unlike Debian and Ubuntu, old tools and mechanism
> are still supported.  For example, in Ubuntu, there is no
> longer really a concept of "runlevel".
>
> This is (to me) a fundamental change in worldview.
>
> Since most administration utilities are tightly linked=20
> to "startup and shutdown" mechanisms, ...so it goes.
>
> I'm still wrapping my mind around it. =20
>
> Fedora users would have been seeing this all along.
>
Fedora 14 has the full complement of system-config-<service> as well as
the init.d scripts, but Fedora does use upstart.

lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40
system-config-authentication -> consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:10 system-config-boot ->
consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:33 system-config-date ->
consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 May 29  2010 system-config-display
-> consolehelper
-rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root        1217 Aug 10 07:11 system-config-firewall=

-rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root        1155 Aug 10 07:11
system-config-firewall-tui
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:41
system-config-keyboard -> consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:10 system-config-lvm ->
consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:07 system-config-netboot
-> consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40 system-config-network
-> consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40
system-config-network-cmd -> consolehelper
-rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root          95 Oct 29 11:33 system-config-printer
-rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root          80 Oct 29 11:33
system-config-printer-applet
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          51 Nov 13 12:25 system-config-samba
-> ../share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 26 13:29 system-config-selinux
-> consolehelper
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          38 Nov 13 11:39
system-config-services -> ../share/system-config-services/gui.py
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:33 system-config-users
-> consolehelper



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