rhel 6 fustrations...

[Stephen Adler]

On 12/02/2010 07:37 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> On 12/02/2010 07:28 AM, Jim Gasek wrote:
>> A couple things I found with RHEL6:
>>
>> Security is no longer an option at boot time, at
>> least in some cases.   selinux for example.  This lack
>> of choice is, in Microsoft parlance, a "feature".
>>
>> Startup mechanism is, slowly but surely departing from
>> the /etc/.init.d/* (sequential and simple) mechanism into
>> the "upstart" paradigm.   Most of the old ways to do things
>> (chkconfig) are still there, for now.
>>
>> This is the root of most confusion, and frankly, problems
>> for people like me who load "servers" all day.
>>
>> For now, unlike Debian and Ubuntu, old tools and mechanism
>> are still supported.  For example, in Ubuntu, there is no
>> longer really a concept of "runlevel".
>>
>> This is (to me) a fundamental change in worldview.
>>
>> Since most administration utilities are tightly linked
>> to "startup and shutdown" mechanisms, ...so it goes.
>>
>> I'm still wrapping my mind around it.
>>
>> Fedora users would have been seeing this all along.
>>
> Fedora 14 has the full complement of system-config-<service>  as well as
> the init.d scripts, but Fedora does use upstart.
>
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40
> system-config-authentication ->  consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:10 system-config-boot ->
> consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:33 system-config-date ->
> consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 May 29  2010 system-config-display
> ->  consolehelper
> -rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root        1217 Aug 10 07:11 system-config-firewall
> -rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root        1155 Aug 10 07:11
> system-config-firewall-tui
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:41
> system-config-keyboard ->  consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:10 system-config-lvm ->
> consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 12:07 system-config-netboot
> ->  consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40 system-config-network
> ->  consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:40
> system-config-network-cmd ->  consolehelper
> -rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root          95 Oct 29 11:33 system-config-printer
> -rwxr-xr-x.   1 root root          80 Oct 29 11:33
> system-config-printer-applet
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          51 Nov 13 12:25 system-config-samba
> ->  ../share/system-config-samba/system-config-samba.py
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 26 13:29 system-config-selinux
> ->  consolehelper
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          38 Nov 13 11:39
> system-config-services ->  ../share/system-config-services/gui.py
> lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root          13 Nov 13 11:33 system-config-users
> ->  consolehelper
>
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system-config-samba does exist in fedora 14, which puzzles me more as to 
why they left it out in rhel6...