[Discuss] Port Scanning

[Daniel M Gessel]

On 2024-08-09 13:36, Kent Borg wrote:
> On 8/6/24 10:03, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> The rise of virtual machines and containers is an admission of
>> systemic failure: people gave up on managing dependencies in a
>> sensible manner.
>
> I've always considered the reason to be that the traditional idea of 
> what services an OS should offer has become tattered. But your version 
> gets to the heart of that in a nice way. And there is more going on 
> (going wrong) here.
>
> The OS clearly isn't doing enough to manage dependencies if people 
> prefer what BIOS offers (or I guess UEFI these days) to what the OS 
> offers. A mark of failure for the OS.

My CS education left out "System Virtual Machines" (as defined by 
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine). When I hear 
or read "VM", I think of "Process Virtual Machines" - which were always 
useful as intermediate targets during compilation and/or interpreters 
(p-code or the WAM for Prolog).

The job of the OS (as I understood it) was to manage the HW, and the 
first OS I used that effectively virtualized the CPU and memory was Unix 
on "worksations". MacOS and DOS just didn't compare anymore.

I can see the utility of System VMs on servers, but not something I'd 
use every day.