[Discuss] systemd sucks and containers suck and language-specific package repos suck

[Jerry Feldman]

I'm only commenting on systemd:
While it is sometimes a real pain in the ass, it solves a really big issue
with initd. Initd worked fine in the 1980s, but it did not handle
dependencies well. Systemd was designed to handle dependencies among many
other things. Like much software, it has become bloated. But it does its
job.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:08 PM Dan Ritter <dsr at randomstring.org> wrote:

> Kent Borg wrote:
> > And it reinforces my dislike of systemd, and suspicion that Docker is the
> > first thing people throw at any problem making the starting size and
> > complexity always large whether it needs to be or not.
>
>
> VM images as deployment mechanisms are the direct descendant of
> "it works on my laptop... let's put my laptop in the rack".
>
> Containers have the benefit of sometimes being a little smaller,
> but still have the same smell. It's too hard to do it right from
> the beginning for too many people.
>
> -dsr-
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