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[I didn't intend to touch off a brush fire...] Regarding using telneting to port 25 as a means of finding the sendmail version number, I wrote (among other things) that it is: > - a truly classic item to be added to the Unix Hater's list of > strange and unwonderful arcana. John Chambers then disagreed, noting that telnet is a widespread, well-known program, SMTP at port 25 is a standard protocol, etc. All true. BUT - ask any Windoze user how to find the version number of the program they are using and they will tell you "Go to the help menu, pull it down, and select 'About...'." How do I get the version number of perl? Of emacs? Of the Linux kernel? Sure, there are simple ways to get this information, but they differ from tool to tool, and you have to know them. Windoze has one consistent mechanism (at least for this...). I'm not a Unix hater. I wouldn't be hanging out with a bunch of other geeks on the BLU list if I were! :-) My sole point is that this is one of the things that Unix gets dinged for by people with an anti-Unix agenda: every tool works differently. -- Jerry Callen Mobile: 617-388-3990 Narsil FAX: 617-876-5331 63 Orchard Street email: jcallen at narsil.com Cambridge, MA 02140-1328 PGP public keys available from: http://www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/lookup_key.asp fingerprints: DH/DSS key ID 0x1806252C: 7669 A4CD 759A 6EB7 AF04 C10D B659 2A4B 1806 252C RSA key ID 0x99F7AAE5: D265 DC9C 13FD 6110 30F5 1874 A206 24B1 - Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the message body to discuss-request at blu.org (Subject line is ignored).
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