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From: eric <235u at comcast.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:40:07 -0500 hi, i wrote a note to the sales dept.s of hp and ibm telling them that i want to buy a laptop (both companies have some cool toys) but i don't want windows on it. i'm trying to get around giving M$ money for something i'm not going to use. both said that they do not offer laptops with linux installed and that they also do not offer laptops with no os installed. if i buy a laptop from them i have to give M$ money. i wonder if they don't offer this because the market is too small or if they're in some contract where they're not able to sell a laptop without xp on it. i dig ibm laptops and think it's pretty lame i've got to give my hard earned pennies to bill. any of you think of a better way around this that i don't know about? anybody sell quality laptops with redhat/fedora or suse installed? thanks for any pointers. -e. Buy a used one on eBay or the like; that way you won't be giving them any more money. I bought a used Dell Inspiron 8000 about 2 years ago that way, and while I've fixed/upgraded a few things (replaced the keyboard and hard drive, added a couple of batteries, upgraded the processor, and will shortly be upgrading the screen) it's given me great service. It runs Linux just fine; suspend/resume and even suspend to disk work better than a lot of laptops do on Windows. I haven't actually entirely wiped Windows off it; the BIOS flash unfortunately requires it (and some of the BIOS upgrades have been useful. I'm personally quite partial toward Dell laptops; the Inspirons are somewhat bulky and heavy and are aesthetically fairly ugly, but they use generic components, have high screen resolutions, and have lots of upgrade possibilities. The 8000, 8100, and 8200 are particularly desirable in this regard because they have a slot for a second battery or second drive (floppy, optical, ZIP, or even a second hard drive), and even the "fixed" drive is easy to replace. It's also very easy to get components on eBay. The newer 8500 and 8600 don't have this second slot, although they have spectacular screen resolution. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk at alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf at uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
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