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Dan Ritter wrote: > serial, telnet, rsh, secure telnet, ssh... it's useful to have a > terminal emulator which is not integrated with the underlying > transport. Of course, and I agree, but... Bill Bogstad wrote: > The 'right' way to accomplish this would probably be to add some kind > of plugin system to a Xterm or equivalent program to replace the > current 'allocate a pty pair and start a command' code. Exactly. The protocol-agnostic approach is the right general solution, if you can only have one form of xterm. A power user can always add the automation themselves (and I have). My complaint is that I'd rather not have to spend the time on it, especially if my use case is the most common one of using an emulator to connect to a remote host via ssh. Lots of traditional command line tools have been GUIfied to make the Linux desktop environment more friendly for non-power users, and it just seems to me like ssh has been overlooked. > In the meantime, you might look into Putty. > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > it claims to have a Unix version, but I've never tried it myself... That's true: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#faq-unix Back when I was looking into xterms I didn't have ssh control in mind as a requirement, so it didn't make sense to go for a product that was rarely used on Linux. I see it is available as a package for Ubuntu, and it does integrate ssh (and telnet, etc.) into it's UI, and even picked up on an existing OpenSSH key when logging in to a host. But the UI of the terminal itself is really bare bones (no menu; not even a context menu), with a pretty ugly default setup. At this point I've tuned and automated ROXTerm, so the ssh control isn't a compelling reason to switch - certainly not if it comes at the expense of other capabilities. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/
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