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> From: discuss-bounces-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org [mailto:discuss-bounces-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org] On > Behalf Of Matthew Gillen > > Google's Dalvik, and Java ME on which it is based, is not a complete > implementation of the full java standard, so those royalty-free > licenses > technically don't apply (regardless of whether the code for Java ME was > open-source or not). Here's the way I heard it: (quote from below) Google could have played a good Open Source citizen and worked with Sun under the terms of the Java Open Source license (quote from below) By not honoring Sun's Java Open Source license, <snip> it is essentially inevitable that Google's Android will bump into some of Sun's patents. > From: opensolaris-discuss-bounces-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org [mailto:opensolaris- > discuss-bounces-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:52 PM > To: opensolaris-discuss-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java! > > > Oracle sues Google over Java! > > > > Un-believable! Now it is proven what Oracle's > > intentions are! Is Java free??? What is the future of > > Java now??? So much for pro-open source attitude! It > > doesn't exist -maybe it never did after Oracle > > acquired Sun. Will anyone trust Oracle any more? > > > > Too bad. Too bad I had to witness this. > > I don't know what you are talking about. In developing Android, Google > could have played a good Open Source citizen and worked with Sun under > the terms of the Java Open Source license to create a win (Google)-win > (Sun, now Oracle)-win (end users) situation. But, no, Google had to > generate a false impression that it is big enough to have invented a > brand new operating system. > > By not honoring Sun's Java Open Source license, and considering the > immense intellectual property portfolio that Sun has developed > associated with the Java technology, it is essentially inevitable that > Google's Android will bump into some of Sun's patents. And in the > process of writing the Android code, it is also not totally unlikely > that (keeping in mind that, because of Google's success, we tend to > forget that Google is indeed a very young company) someone might have > gotten sloppy and some of Sun's Java code got "pasted' into Android > within the meaning of copyright violation. But as far as the consumers > are concerned, we (I own two Droid phones) are suffering from the > relative immaturity that the Android OS shows. I am sure things would > have been much better if Google could be a little bit more honest and a > little bit less arrogant. > > It was my understanding that Rich Green was already very gung-ho about > bringing this law suit against Google but was shot down by the > ponytail--unfortunately Green lost his fight and had to leave Sun. > (Most of us probably still remember that Dr. Green led Sun's efforts in > the previous Java law suit against Microsoft, resulting in a multi- > billion settlement which kept Sun afloat in the past couple of years.) > Who knows, Sun might still be around if Rich Green were the CEO instead > of the ponytail.
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