Oracle Sues Google Over Android

[gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org (Jerry Feldman)]

PJ posted a pretty decent summary on Groklaw this morning:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=3D20100815110101756

Apparently, this is a result of failed negotiations between Google and
Sun from before the Oracle acquisition. Personally, I don't suspect this
to take a very long time before there is a settlement.

On 08/16/2010 08:17 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>> From: discuss-bounces-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org [mailto:discuss-bounces-mNDKBlG2WHs at public.gmane.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matthew Gillen
>>
>> Google's Dalvik, and Java ME on which it is based, is not a complete
>> implementation of the full java standard, so those royalty-free
>> licenses
>> technically don't apply (regardless of whether the code for Java ME wa=
s
>> open-source or not).
>>    =20
> Here's the way I heard it:
>
> (quote from below)
> Google could have played a good Open Source citizen and worked with Sun=

> under the terms of the Java Open Source license
>
> (quote from below)
> By not honoring Sun's Java Open Source license, <snip> it is essentiall=
y
> inevitable that Google's Android will bump into some of Sun's patents.
>
>
>  =20
>> From: opensolaris-discuss-bounces-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org [mailto:opensolaris-=

>> discuss-bounces-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh
>> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:52 PM
>> To: opensolaris-discuss-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A at public.gmane.org
>> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!
>>
>>    =20
>>> Oracle sues Google over Java!
>>>
>>> Un-believable! Now it is proven what Oracle's
>>> intentions are! Is Java free??? What is the future of
>>> Java now??? So much for pro-open source attitude! It
>>> doesn't exist -maybe it never did after Oracle
>>> acquired Sun. Will anyone trust Oracle any more?
>>>
>>> Too bad. Too bad I had to witness this.
>>>      =20
>> I don't know what you are talking about.  In developing Android, Googl=
e
>> could have played a good Open Source citizen and worked with Sun under=

>> the terms of the Java Open Source license to create a win (Google)-win=

>> (Sun, now Oracle)-win (end users) situation.  But, no, Google had to
>> generate a false impression that it is big enough to have invented a
>> brand new operating system.
>>
>> By not honoring Sun's Java Open Source license, and considering the
>> immense intellectual property portfolio that Sun has developed
>> associated with the Java technology, it is essentially inevitable that=

>> Google's Android will bump into some of Sun's patents.  And in the
>> process of writing the Android code, it is also not totally unlikely
>> that (keeping in mind that, because of Google's success, we tend to
>> forget that Google is indeed a very young company) someone might have
>> gotten sloppy and some of Sun's Java code got "pasted' into Android
>> within the meaning of copyright violation.  But as far as the consumer=
s
>> are concerned, we (I own two Droid phones) are suffering from the
>> relative immaturity that the Android OS shows.  I am sure things would=

>> have been much better if Google could be a little bit more honest and =
a
>> little bit less arrogant.
>>
>> It was my understanding that Rich Green was already very gung-ho about=

>> bringing this law suit against Google but was shot down by the
>> ponytail--unfortunately Green lost his fight and had to leave Sun.
>> (Most of us probably still remember that Dr. Green led Sun's efforts i=
n
>> the previous Java law suit against Microsoft, resulting in a multi-
>> billion settlement which kept Sun afloat in the past couple of years.)=

>> Who knows, Sun might still be around if Rich Green were the CEO instea=
d
>> of the ponytail.
>


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