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On 5/6/2013 11:58 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: > Matthew Gillen wrote: >> But not in the same way copper POTS was in some very important respects. >> First, access: Vz doesn't /have/ to provide third party access (so for >> example there will never be another Speakeasy, or 10-10-220 if you >> remember that). > > Almost all of the old CLECs /failed/. The CLEC business model doesn't > work. The ones that barely survived, like Speakeasy and Covad, merged > and now run their own circuits to corporate customers. Just because they're not in business now doesn't mean the idea of open access is doomed to failure. The long-distance services (e.g. 10-10-321 and the like), while they no longer exist, had a large role in changing the price structure for long distance (how many of you pay for long distance on your cell plan? On your land line even?). Likewise the successful CLECs like speakeasy were in dense population centers, which is exactly where Vz wanted to target first with their FiOS rollout. I would argue that the gross inferiority of DSL service compared to FiOS had more to do with their extinction than a doomed business model. >> Second, while Comcast is the vocal leader on this, Vz >> is right behind them: they like to claim that since it's not a POTS line >> any more that the provisions of common-carrier status don't apply > > FiOS is not a common carrier service. FiOS is not available to everyone > equally. Neither is Xfinity. Any given city or town can decide not to > permit Verizon to provide FiOS service, the same way that any given city > or town can decide not to permit Comcast to provide service. Since any > given cable TV provider's service is not common to everyone that service > cannot have common carrier status. That isn't what common carrier means. Common carrier does not mean that service has to be offered to everyone everywhere (as a resident of MA, I could not demand service from a regional telephone company in the south, even though it is a "common carrier"). It means that for a given geographic area that you've agreed to service (which could be as small as a single town; note that common carrier status was originally designed for private delivery firms like the pony express, and they didn't have an office in every town across the US), several conditions apply: - you may not refuse service to someone who is willing and able to pay in that geographic area - you may not "open the package" to see what is inside In exchange, the "carrier" gets indemnified from any prosecution relating to crimes committed using their service. This is why even though nearly all crimes use a telephone during planning or execution, you'll never see Vz prosecuted for aiding-and-abetting petty crime. Comcast and Vz both want to keep the indemnification part (because lets face it, a lot of crime involves the internet one way or another), they just want to lose the part where they have a responsibility to not "open the package", which in internet terms means deep packet inspection (e.g. so Comcast can use Sandvine to identify Bittorrent traffic). > You can thank or blame the FCC for this one. It's a side effect of the > deregulation acts that put control over who provides what in the hands > of municipal cable advisory boards. Yes, it's partly the FCC's fault, but it's not quite fair to blame deregulation. Both Vz and Comcast claim that the whole telecommunications act doesn't apply to their respective internet services (and therefore the FCC has virtually no regulatory authority) as long as they are not based on the old copper infrastructure. The bigger fault though lies with Congress, because without congress updating/clarifying exactly what should and should not fall under the Telecommunications Act, the courts do what courts do and guess as to the lawmaker's intent, and what ends up happening is often the FCC doesn't really have a very strong leg to stand on (look up the smackdown the FCC got when it tried to reprimand Comcast over their bittorrent meddling). Matt
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