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[Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

First, databases are a mature technology. While there are always new
things an features. it all comes down to wanting to store lots of data
securely, and be able to retrieve that data quickly and logically. I
once sat on the ANSI standards database committee, and I fully
understand some of the thinking. In ANSI, the member of the committees
were mostly vendor representatives where the ISO committees tend to be
more academics. But also working in a compiler group at Digital we
always had to consider backwards and binary compatibilities. So, if
Oracle makes a change they could affect their entire customer base. I
recently had an issue with some SQL code that worked fine on Oracle 11G
Enterprise, but did not work on Oracle XE Express. If I recall it was a
case sensitivity issue. So, once you have a product, you have to
consider the existing users.

On 01/08/2014 03:10 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
> On 1/8/2014 2:21 PM, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
>> I lurk one of the postgresql dev lists and they are constantly making
>> new commits and there always seem to be new features being added, most
>> of which I haven't even started playing with.  But I think I hear what
>> you're saying.  It's an older technology that's been pretty well
>> explored and polished.  Probably not much low hanging fruit.
>> I haven't played with the NoSQL stuff yet.  Probably because I find
>> sql and it's super sets to be quite useful.  One of you posted this a
>> while back.  Still cracks me up.
> Or, try this abso-f2(*&$ng-lutely incredible commentary on one of the
> currently-fashionable
> methodologies:
> or languages (and it's true that php developers never get groupies) ...
> or trying to figure out the motives, background, IQ, or batshite
> <>
> (and, yes, I almost soiled myself several times when listening to this).
> Bill, who is going back to the Scary Devil Monastery ...
> P.S. (With apologies to a certain BLU member who uses that method ...)
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:25 AM,<markw at>  wrote:
>>> 'm not saying they are "dead" as in no one is using them, I'm more
>>> thinking they are dead with regard to feature development.
>>> PostgreSQL and MySQL and the commercial databases just seem less
>>> "important" these days with things like MongoDB and Cassandra. Don't
>>> get
>>> me wrong, I think the NoSQL crowd are fairly delusional because
>>> eventually
>>> these NoSQL databases will all have SQL front ends and ACID
>>> characteristics are vital to any real database. (but I digress)
>>> Traditional ACID SQL databases have more or less peaked. Data stores
>>> like
>>> the NoSQL ilk are pretty much done feature wise as well. Stonebreaker's
>>> next project is getting very little traction.
>>> Have databases become just another "word processor" like application
>>> where
>>> almost all the standard offerings are really good enough?   I mean,
>>> jeez,
>>> tomcat, apache, php, etc. are all jus good enough and there are no new
>>> "must have" features as well.
>>> I guess the real question is what's left or are infrastructure
>>> components
>>> pretty much done?
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Jerry Feldman <gaf at>
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